Cylon detection.

Can someone please clarify how it is possible for skin-jobs to be indistiguishable from humans, when they have the capability to plug an infrared cable into her arm???

I mean there must be some kinda input in there. or is it just that their blood is somehow able to interact with conventional technology like cables and usb pens?

Im sure this has been discussed before but thanks anyway.:slight_smile:

I always assumed that there was some sort of nano-technology involved. LIke they just have millions of tiny microscopic robots in their blood and that’s how they can connect to things…but I could be wrong.

Ron moore has said before that the interacting with the infrared was a plot defice and was to be overlooked. He said he never really liked it and said huh… please look the other way. THEN they did it again in the webisode!!! He has acknoledged it was a writeing failure and offers no explanation other than that.

Yeah, I assumed something simliar, too…

Sometimes, you just have to give the writers a break… science fiction stretches the boundaries of believability, anyway. In ā€œhardā€ scifi, you wouldn’t be able to get away with this, but since this story doesn’t fall into that category, they can strain the believability factor a bit, I think.

yea i never liked it. and it was stupid as well, it was meant to be a WOW moment but it was completely in contradiction with the rest of the information we had regarding the nature of cylon physiology.

They should have just had athena work on a computer like a regular human, only with more speed and skill.

Oh well BSG still rocks!

Like Data. It would have made better sense, and RDM admitting a mistake is not the way to go on top of it.

When it comes to the tech-sci aspect of BSG, well I think you do have to look the other way. Personally I don’t have a problem with that. Its not at the core of the series.

The Data-option would have been better science-wise, but it wouldn’t have been fresh or eye-popping. I also thought that the reason must be something related to how the skinjobs also seem able to process information through touch (think operations of the base stars). Also, I don’t mind when RDM admits mistakes- it reminds me that BSG is art just as much as it is it’s own complete universe into which we submerge ourselves.

My theory is that what they call humans are really much closer to Cylon than we think.

I agree. It’s called the ā€œsuspension of disbelief maneuver.ā€

Shiney! Welcome to the Forum Bald_as_Saul.

Now that I read this, it sounds so obvious. Nice!

They dipped their hands in Cylon-water in the baseship too…

I think RDM meant to call on the audience to partake in suspending the disbelief of it all; in Shakespeare, where you saw one soldier, you’d imagine a thousand. The same logic goes for RDM’s re-imagining here. :stuck_out_tongue:

The immediate giveaway is that the Cylons smell of Elderberries.

As opposed to cabbage.

the water interface doesnt bother me that much. I figured it could be that the liquid is some manner of hi-tech aqua-brail. You learn to read it and interact with it.

we know for a fact you cant get info of of a cable by touching it…no matter how smart you are.

Sorry. You are wrong… :frowning:

The Colonial’s medical and scientific technology is sufficiently advanced that they would easily detect nano-machines in Cylon blood.

They clearly have CAT-type technology, DNA-typing, etc. Electron scanning microscopes must be routine to have this sort of stuff. Hell, they have FTL drives! Our own current tech can ā€˜see’ and manipulate individual atoms, so it is reasonable to assume Colonial tech is at least as advanced.

There is no conceivable (or even inconceivable) machine/nanobot/whatever which would be smaller than atom-size. For a machine to even function at the most basic level one would imagine it would have to comprise a level of complexity of a magnitude of at least thousands of atoms.

I keep returning to one of my very original hypotheses, from oh-so long ago, which met with deafening silence, slight disagreement, and only very occasional support at the time: there is effectively no difference between ā€˜humans’ and ā€˜Cylons’. Colonial technology could not separate them via DNA, microscopic analysis, etc. I suggested (and still largely do) that all humans are Cylons, that really Cylons are humans with certain genes ā€˜activated’. When activated, otherwise seeming-junk DNA turns on downloading capability, extra strength, projection, hidden programming, etc.

It’s like in Stargate (the original movie) and Stargate SG-1, where the people of Abydos spoke some dialect of ancient Egyptian. That’s where Daniel came in.

Every other alien race after that spoke english with a Califorian twang. :stuck_out_tongue: That made Daniel rather redundant, but he stuck around. :wink:

I keep returning to one of my very original hypotheses, from oh-so long ago, which met with deafening silence, slight disagreement, and only very occasional support at the time: there is effectively no difference between ā€˜humans’ and ā€˜Cylons’. Colonial technology could not separate them via DNA, microscopic analysis, etc. I suggested (and still largely do) that all humans are Cylons, that really Cylons are humans with certain genes ā€˜activated’. When activated, otherwise seeming-junk DNA turns on downloading capability, extra strength, projection, hidden programming, etc.

I think there long has been many who believe that the FF type Cylons are quite ā€œcloseā€ to humans. That is now supported by the fact that ā€œweā€ developed them on Kobol (as per Tory). The S7 types less so, but not so different than humans and they can procreate.

There’s a sci-fiction law established from the Highlander franchise, which makes sense :

One can either be immortal and not have children,

or procreate and die (sooner or later).

Ya can’t have it both ways. :confused:

Where do I sign up for the former? Can I disown the kids?