Could a lightsaber cut through Adamantium?

I recently got into a debate with a friend of mine who’s a big X-Men guy, I’m a big star wars guy

he says a lightsaber cannot cut through Adamantium, I say YES IT CAN!!!

Wow, back to old school X-men knowledge.

I defer to Wiki, although I am sure there are better sources out there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantium

Salient quote:

Adamantium is created by mixing several chemical resins together; the exact formula is a secret. After the resins are mixed together, the adamantium can be molded into different shapes for approximately eight minutes as long as the mixture is kept at a temperature of 1,500 °F (816°C). Adamantium’s extremely stable molecular structure prevents it from being further molded after this eight-minute time period even if the temperature is high enough to keep it in its liquified form. In its solid form, it is colorless, shiny, and resembles high-grade steel or titanium. It is almost impossible to destroy or fracture in this state and when crafted to a razor edge it can penetrate most lesser materials with minimal application of strength. It is at least somewhat magnetic, since Magneto has manipulated it on multiple occasions.

The article goes on to say that the only real way of destroying the stuff is by rearranging it at the molecular level. Sorry buddy, but it seems that no matter how hot that lightsaber is, it isn’t going to cut through it.

You realize of course that this discussion is going to blow Sean’s brains into a million little pieces. :smiley:

Can’t. There’s metal in the SW universe it can’t cut through. Adamantium might as well be called “Best-Metal-Ever-ium” I’m sure it’s just as strong as the metal in SW

“Unobtanium” is the word the FX guys use. :smiley:

I say it can.

Beskar is the metal in the SW universe that can deflect or even temporarily short out a light saber but it is possible for a Lightsaber to cut thru it depending on how the Beskar was forged. Also used in conjunction with the Shatterpoint force power it should be relatively easy for a lightsaber to make short work of any metal. I am such a nerd.

to quote from Wookepedia

Sith Master Darth Caedus used this ability to destroy the beskar-forged armor of the Mandalorian Protector Roegr. By tapping the breastplate lightly with the hilt of his lightsaber, Caedus was able to completely shatter the armor. Luke Skywalker revealed that he too could perceive shatterpoints, and taught this to Jaina Solo.

I suppose one could make the argument that re-arranging things at the molecular level is how the lightsaber cuts. The official Star Wars databank doesn’t out and out say that, but does seem to insinuate:

Once unleashed, the power channels through a positively charged continuous energy lens at the center of the handle. The beam then arcs circumferentially back to a negatively charged high energy flux aperture. A superconductor transfers the power from the flux aperture to the power cell. As a result, a lightsaber only expends power when its blade cuts through something. So efficient is the blade, that it does not radiate heat unless it comes into contact with something.

So one could make the argument that the lightsaber “cuts” an object because the object’s molecules de-stabilize when the 'saber’s field intersects them. The bit above seems to indicate that the heat is a by-product of the process as opposed to the (small-f)force behind it.

Right now my guy says yes, the lightsaber would cut Adamantium simply because Adamantium’s strength isn’t designed to function against this type of weapon.

That said, could you “kill” Wolverine with a lightsaber? Um, no.

Would I put my cash on Wolverine in a death match with a Jedi? Um, yes.

Wolverine just recently fought a whole team of dudes with laser claws so I’m gonna say laser claws = light saber = doesn’t cut through =D

Also to the best of my knowledge the only time adamantium has been broken in some way is like. God/Cosmic level power brought against it, and reality changers.

Hate to be a buzzkill but this is light saber cutting through adamantium, not force powers + light saber <_<

you cannot separate a light saber from the Jedi wielding it, so I say YES, a Jedi should be able to cut throuhg anything. I refer to Phantom Menace, when Qui-Gonn melted how thick a wall of blast shielding just by concentrating?

My thought process is that adamantium is the hardest metal in existence. And a Jedi master and his light saber is the perfect weapon. A master Jedi should be able to toast Wolverine.

Or at least poke out his eyes.

IIRC, Captain America’s shield is the only non-mystical object stronger than adamantium in the Marvel universe and was used to decapitate a vampire Wolverine in an alternate reality. Thor’s hammer, swung with the full strength of the God of Thunder himself, could only barely dent it. Adamantium could not be affected by nuclear explosions, alien particle beams, or even a raging Hulk.

Lightsabers are awesome (in truest sense of the word) weapons, but my money is on adamantium.

I totally take your point, and FWIW I think one can make a strong argument for either side here. That said, I suspect the argument for lightsabers here is that they’re not lasers – which “cut” by melting/vaporizing material by application of heat – but rather an energy field that disrupts the matter. The Lucas text describes an energy field that’s shaped by crystals – sounds kinda Gua’ould, doesn’t it? – as opposed to a beam. This interpretation also adds a cool level of explanation to the “less crude than a blaster” concept.

yea Lightsabers are not lasers they are much more akin to plasma but but much more than that. Lightsabers are more or less the ultimate personnel level of weapons in the Star wars universe. I still think Sabers would win

What if it was a shark with a friggin’

I say yep - seems reasonable. Adamantium is just metal…fakking strong metal, but metal just teh same. If magneto can melt it - a lightsaber can cut it.

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I harvested this from across the interwebs and some from the wikipedia.

My vote is, of course, against the general flow cuz I’m of the opinion that a saber couldn’t get through the adamantium.

(Why do I always wind up on the down side of these things?)

Ok so adamantium is created by mixing several chemical resins together; after the resins are mixed together, the adamantium can be molded into different shapes for approximately eight minutes as long as the mixture is kept at a temperature of 1,500 °F (816°C).

Adamantium’s extremely stable molecular structure prevents it from being further molded after this eight-minute time period even if the temperature is high enough to keep it in its liquified form.

Note: that heating it back up to 1500 won’t do you any good, though as my esteemed associate pointed out the sabers aren’t lasers exactly.

Despite its proficiency as a practical armament and/or armature, adamantium has rarely been used because is astronomically expensive to create and once the compound has solidified it can never be melted down and re-crafted.

It’s the chemical reaction that gets me. A mix of things together that makes a substance much, much stronger than the parts alone might suggest.

I’m thinking the saber has not got enough “umph” to outstrip the molecular ressistance that the adamantium has.

P.S. …and for the record, there’s no way a mere Jedi could kill Wolverine. :wink:

okay so here it is no a lightsaber cannot cut through adamantium

my evidence is two fold one from a starwars perspectives and one from an x-men

from Starwars during the EU vong arc, they had staffs that could stand up to a lightsaber… and as adamantium is the strongest metal ever…

from x-men Wolverine and his claws have been blasted on by cyclops a lot. which is much more powerful than a lightsaber and they have never been the worst for wear.

discreetly putting my geek away now :o

After reading these post and hearing the arguments, I still have no frakkin’ idea. I’m close to voting Baltar (first time doing so) on this one.

I love reading the arguments though folks. I’m basking in the geekness. I’m being sincere here, not sarcastic. You guys are awesome.

Heeeeeeeeeell yeah. Sean’s on my side. Suck it gwcf =P

But you can have a non-Jedi use a lightsaber, Han Solo used it to cut the Tawn tawn (yeah, i guessed at the spelling of Tawn tawn)

So you can seperate the saber from the jedi. and the original question was can a light saber cut through adamantium not can a jedi cut through adamantium…

a good question… and so far a good set up arguments for both sides… I think i have to go Baltar on this one.

it would appear I’ve unleashed a geek pandora’s box upon us all!