#287: What kind of geek are you?

Again I would disagree. I love both films but Kane especially as the only time we really see Kane for ourselves is the opening sequence when he says “Rosebud”. All other knowledge of Kane is from the recollection of each of the characters interviewed, and each depiction of Kane is subtlety different based on the character telling the story at that point. Each scene is not in so much about Kane himself, but of the character that tells that part of the story. Kane is merely a cipher through which we see a distillation of each narrator through how each viewed him. The only truth about Kane that we see with our own eyes are the opening and closing sequences, making Kane an intriguing enigma. Was everything said of him in this movie true? Which narrator could be considered unreliable, if not all of them? What we have is a patchwork man shown to us via the memories of others, and no first hand knowledge except for the two scenes mentioned. It’s unconventional story telling and highly effective.

Now while I love Casablanca, the story and characters aren’t some new revelation. It’s a story told in many similar ways before and after. What makes Casablanca so amazing is the performances themselves. We are not talking ground breaking cinema here. It was a movie produced by the B-Unit at Warner Bros, and they changed the script everyday. A hurried production to take advantage of the invasion of North Africa in WW2 by the allies. What makes Casablanca so amazing is that they made a film like it, under the the extreme stresses that was B Unit production under the old studio system. That sorta of “knock em out” production line mentality.

Story and character are very important to me. I love Rick and Ilyssa as much as anyone, but Kane is far more compelling a character for the reasons I noted.

That was an awesome read Talos :slight_smile: Glad that tidbit helped expand the character of Kane for you.

I agreed it was something completely out of left field for Cinema and did AMAZING things that are still being felt today. But like I said that doesn’t make it a good MOVIE. It uses techniques to be flashy, to do new things, they aren’t done to ADD anything to the plot and characters. I’m glad it exists for the sake of advancing the art form but that’s about it.

The film opens with the subjective camera defying the No Trespassing sign setting just one of the many aspects of the film, invasion of privacy and the cult of personality. The snow globe alludes to the final sequence as young Charles plays in the snow. His dying self is reminded of his youth and mouths the cryptic word: ROSEBUD. I could go on and on about all the symbolism throughout this film, all crafted by design.

Some of this stuff is as deep as Shakespeare. I’m totally missing your point about not adding to the plot or characters.

http://forum.galacticwatercooler.com/showthread.php?10269-GWC-Podcast-209

I knew we had this conversation before.

Are you sure you even saw Citizen Kane? Everything done developed the characters amazingly. I can’t believe you and I are even discussing the same movie with that statement.

thanks, i guess the non-spoilery discussion was the finale X-Men first class discussion. Maybe they an do an in-depth one when the DVD comes out. It is the best X-men movie after all.

Hmmmm I’m surprised I missed it.

So… wow… I looked up Geek Code and I did it… they should have made an script to generate it… then it’d be less time consuming… it’s sad how many of the social and political choices are still perfectly applicable and relevant now…

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That was #276.

Sorry, update complete. :o

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No need to apologize. It was complete enough to find the X-Men / Summer Movies discussion. :wink: And the spreadsheet is greatly appreciated!

a very interesting one is TV. What defines as watching TV these days. A lot of people don’t actually own a TV set these days, but still watches programming produced by network TV stations. By the way he described it, watching TV was still a glued to your TV kind of experience. Back when DVD probably hadn’t appeared and netflicks sounds like science fiction.

… there’s a great porn movie title :slight_smile:

“I just like my hay stacks Bobby.” --Thomas Crown

As a jumping off point, I submit to y’all to kindly contribute to the guitar g33k thread; especially to all the guitar afficionados out there

Kudos

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I was thinking of just an Entertainment Geek code.

Break it down:

Choose your area of expertise or multiple expert, you can add your level of expertise with ++ and extra special : Movies, TV, Books, Music, Fanfiction (MV+, TV++, BK–, MU-, FF++)

Choose a genre: Hard SF, Soft and social SF, Cyberpunk, Time travel, Alternate history, Military SF, Superhuman, Apocalyptic, Space opera, Space Western

US Shows: Star Trek (each flavor), Babylon 5, X-files, Lost, Fringe, etc.
British Sci-fi: Dr. Who, Red Dwarf, etc.
Movies: Star Wars, Terminator, Planet of the Apes, etc.
Books: Asimov, Heinlein, etc.
Music: You own all the soundtracks of Star Wars, You are in a Wizard Rock band, stuff like that.
Fanfiction: You read, You write, You sold, etc.

Oh wait I also forgot to mention Cosplay and Conventions. I probably left out a whole bunch of stuff.

Well, it’s a start.

What about the new geek genre of TV series that references geek culture heavily, for example shows like Chuck and Community.

There is a geek code generator (from '95!) still up.

Oh SNAP! Joe Reiss!! I love that guy. He had an OSSIM Spoiler-free Opinion rating system Star Trek site!!

http://www.joereiss.net/sos/

that generator has way better choices than the original.

New code generated with that php thing.

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old code made by hand

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I tried to choose the same things i did on my own, but it turned out somewhat different.

Just catching up with this one.

Yeah, MLP is a great show. We even have a thread about it. (It’s mostly me posting.)

MC Frontalot is very shy, at least among people he doesn’t know. You should check out Nerdcore Rising if you get a chance. It’s a fantastic flick about his debut concert tour (and he was obviously comfortable around the documentary crew.)

//youtu.be/z8rqdEahBos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8rqdEahBos