http://www.amazon.com/Tron-Betrayal-Jai-Nitz/dp/142313463X
I’m gonna have to check that out for ten bucks:)
Viewing 1 - Awesome
Viewing 2 - Still good, but felt like maybe the story could have used a scoche more meat on its bones…
There are a lot of haters out there, but overall I loved the new Tron. The effects were pure genius, on a 3D IMAX screen. Especially the light cycles.
A couple of things bugged me though, mainly how Quorra could be un-digitised into the real world. I get that she’s a new being, but to get unlasered Flynn’s proteins, cells, DNA all get recombined into a person. She doesn’t have that body, so how does it work? Same thing with Clu, how was he going to be able to get a body to escape the grid?
Also where did they get the food from? Can Flynn just wish things into existence?
That being said, I really enjoyed the movie, even just for the visuals.
I was really looking forward to Tron. I saw it in 3D a week ago.
I liked the original Tron - found it interesting and enjoyable, but without much depth.
Tron Legacy - I have pretty much the same comments- interesting, enjoyable, great effects, not much depth. I’m taking my nephew to see it today - I’m curious about a 2nd viewing.
Spouse and I saw it the other day and really really enjoyed it. Spouse said ze would see it again, which, coming from hir, is an enormous endorsement.
About the body - I figured that was the info that was on Flynn’s disk? And they went through the portal with that disk, didn’t they?
(Though then I wonder about how to regenerate/duplicate/whatever Quorra’s info, too).
I just saw Gem (Beau Garrett) on Jimmy Kimmel talking about the suits they wore. She said that it took her 5 hours to get the suit on and 1 hour to take it off. And when she took it off, a horrible odor filled her trailer. I guess that get-up is impractical for actual women to wear, but it was fun to look at on screen.
Ok, I have to just respond to this first. I LOVES IT.
A friend of mine this week received a velcro ring proposal b/c her BF wanted to go the traditional route even though he knew she didn’t want a ring. That’s cute. Muppets… cute x 1000.
We went last night–we tried to see the movie over xmas break in Florida but because my grandparents live Oldsville, the theater in town didn’t show it in 3D. My grandma was like, “Well, can’t you see it in regular?”
“No.”
I really, really enjoyed it. Almost as much as the original Tron. I have been saving this thread and the 250th cast for once I’ve actually seen the movie, so I have tons to say in response to all your smart comments. Thanks for pointing out Cillian Murphy and Donnely Rhodes, too! I missed them amidst all the awesomeness.
Without further ado, my thots:
You are so right! It worked well for CLU since I think the idea of the Uncanny Valley is central to who he is–just like Flynn but frozen and inhuman, unable to develop and grow. And get all zen and sh*t. I did not like the anti-aging potion’s effect on actual-Flynn at the beginning of the movie. That needed to be really human and it just didn’t quite work. But it was perfectly creepy for CLU.
That is totally how I am going to think of it. Right on, Sithwitch.
And it’s so becoming on you! Yeah, the GF was like, “Let’s go as Flynn and Zues for Halloween!” and I was like, “Why do I always have to be the one to wear a bushy beard for our costumes?” She almost won me over by reminding me that I’d get to wear that awesome light-up Jedi robe, though.
We cracked up and the dudes in front of us laughed but most people didn’t get it. The median age in the theater was probably about 28, so people probably hadn’t seen Tron since the 80s.
That’s why I’ll gear up for viewing #2 with some psychotropic enhancement…
In seriousness, I think that the story/plot could have used either a smidge less or a smidge more meat. Flynn’s zenned-out pronouncements were super silly but I think they rescued the movie from potentially taking itself too seriously to be enjoyable for the wild romp that it is.
On the other hand, there were some cohesion issues that I couldn’t help but notice (why do they need food in the Grid? Where do they get organic materials for eating in the Grid? Do the programs simply “sleep” in place when not in use or do they have lives and personal narratives? We see evidence for both…) Also, was anyone else kind of weirded out by the unsteady sexual vibe between Sam and Quorra? Clearly, Quorra was a daughter to Flynn and at first the relationship between Sam and Quorra seemed sibling-like. But then at the end… it gave me a mild case of the squicks.
But forget criticism–there’s light cycles! And light jets! And light trains! and light jetpacks! TRON Legacy is AWESOME!
Hey, everybody. I’ve been traveling to see relatives the past few weeks for the holidays, so I’m catching up on past casts.
I loved Tron: Legacy. Underneath the spectacle and the style, there were two big ideas that caught my imagination.
I loved the idea that the Grid is a world where Created Beings and Evolved Beings lived side by side. The movie looks at something that is, for us, an unanswerable question: “Were we created by a Creator for a purpose, or did we evolve naturally from our environment?” …And the movie answers it, definitely. The cool part is that the answer isn’t “Yes” or “No”; the answer is “Sometimes, but not always”.
Most Programs on the Grid were created for a purpose, and they know that for a fact, because they’ve actually met Users and talked to them. The ISOs, however, evolved naturally from their environment and don’t have a Creator, and they know that for a fact, too. First, it’s cool to think that there could actually be a world where you could know the answer to that question. Then, it is extra cool to think that the answer for you might be completely different from the answer for the guy standing right next to you, even though both answers are true.
(Granted, in the movie, one group basically wipes out the other group, but that’s less interesting to me. Science fiction includes lots of examples of metaphors for the dangers of intolerance by one group against another. I’ve seen that before. I just think it’s cool that the movie answered an unanswerable question in a unique way.)
The second part that I loved was the idea that the discovery of spontaneously developed intelligence inside the computer would fundamentally change the way we think about our world outside. The cool part is that the movie doesn’t specify how it would change things, so it makes me think. I’m sure some people would say, “The development of intelligent life is so unlikely; the fact that it happend twice must mean that there is a benign force behind the scenes stacking the deck in favor of life and intellignce.” Other people would say, “If intelligence could evolve spontaneously in the computer without observable intervention from any creator, that must mean that it could have happened in our world, too.” Two different people could look at the same facts and come to two different conclusions. I can kind of see both sides. The ambiguity itself is cool. If we ever make first contact with intelligence life on another planet, we will probably have to think through some of the same questions.
I finally got to see Tron Legacy and have to say I loved it. I had forgotten how much a part of my youth Tron was and how deeply some of those images and ideas are inside my head. I need to see it again but here are some thoughts…
I loved this, but it was sort of a “fan” movie. Having said that, if they took the time to “explain” everthing, it would have significantly diminished the overall story.
Beautiful visuals, reminded me of avatar as sort of a “feast for the eyes” in 3D.
I could find nobody to go with me who knows anything about Tron. My sister-in-law said “what is Tron? isn’t it a transformer”…ugh. I then tried to explain it and found it more than a little difficult.
Loved the final scene with CLU and The Dude coming together as one. Something that was always going to happen but it took Flynn’s choice to take the middle road between light and dark to make it a reality. Much like Neo’s choice in The Matrix, revolutions:
Smith “Why, Mr. Anderson, Why do you persist?”
NEO “Because I CHOOSE to”
Flynns decision was a true choice to lay down arms and accept his fate for the good of all. Very cool.
Have a great weekend all!
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At Christmas lunch my sister tried to get me to explain Tron. I tried to get out of it, knowing it would be tricky, as she’s not very technically oriented. Plus, I only watched the original a few weeks ago, and UD had to explain a lot of it to me.
A few sentences into my explanation she gave up.
I saw this last night (as those of you who follow me on twitter may know).
I did love the movie (although it did feel like it ran a little long, could be just me).
However here’s the thing and I don’t know if it wa a projection issue, an eye brain issue or what but I saw almost zero 3-D efecs after about 5 mins, so I must ask, how much of the movies 2-plus hours run time was actually in 3-D
I think it might have been a cinema* screw up but before I shell out to see it again in 3-D I want to check if I missed anything.
Kind regards and much belated congrats on 250.
Phaze
on the “I’d ring more often but ye never seem to play my voicemails, sniff” ID
*sorry to use unfamiliar ters but to us European folks a theatre has a stage and live actors 
When I saw Legacy in 3D there was a warning at the start that parts were supposed to be 2D, so you shouldn’t take off your glasses.
I was actually quite impressed by the 3D experience, since my previous experiences had resulted in nausea and motion-sickness. I thought that the 3D was well done, honestly, since it wasn’t done gratuitously, and I thought fit well into the story. But perhaps there were projection issues - we were lucky enough to see Legacy in a theatre with excellent projection and sound. It’s amazing how much bad sound or projection can really ruin a movie experience. 
The “real world” scenes were all in 2D and some of the computer scenes were in 3D. They wanted to create a contrast between the two. If you didn’t see any 3D in the computer scenes, especially when they showed derezzing, you might want to get your money back.
Oh, are ters the fey folk who operate your magic lanterns?
No, seriously, I’m going to use that in a story.
I’m a fan of Grant Gould’s art and blog- thot I’d post a link to his ossim page: http://grantgould.blogspot.com/2011/01/2011-sketchbook.html
My. New. Background.
Just saw it a third time, my favorite scene is still probably the klop-klop scene where the four gals are armoring up the protagonist.
Klop!
So, will they call it “The Kato Movie” in Taiwan? (:
I felt more like Viewing 2 at my first an only viewing. I liked it, I want to see it again, and I’ll buy the Blu-ray, but it felt a little light.
That said, I liked the updated Recognizers and seeing the two bits on the mantel. I wonder what they were trying to express with them being dormant. That the grid has progressed beyond the existence of bits?
And, very late grats on 250.