#223: Heist Movies, Thomas Crown Affair, Trek Douchebags

This week: We continue our heist arc with the Thomas Crown Affair. We wrap up our Star Trek douchebag arc with a look at one of our favorites — Seska. And we run down the week in geek, including a possible Indy 5 movie, a sweet new Mortal Combat trailer (complete with Jeri Ryan), and lots, lots more.

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I never did like the Kazons, they just seemed like hillbillies in space. Don’t know why. I found this quote on Memory Alpha.

“I did it for you. I did it for this crew. We are alone here, at the mercy of any number of hostile aliens, because of the incomprehensible decision of a Federation captain. A Federation captain who destroyed our only chance to get home. Federation rules. Federation nobility. Federation compassion? Do you understand, if this had been a Cardassian ship, we would be home now. We must begin to forge alliances. To survive, we must have powerful friends. The Kazon-Nistrim were willing to be our protectors in return for some minor technology.”

All I have to say is, her judgement was way off (even though it was understandable), out of all the people in the delta quadrant, she chose a race with bad grooming style and are not that threatening really.

Regarding the Mortal Kombat movie, it does seem sweet but I’m going to avoid all trailers so I can go into it fresh. I always played either Raiden, Scorpio or Sub-Zero (or Sub-Zero’s alt - Deep Freeze :slight_smile: :)). As long as they have the ‘Get over here’ or ‘Finish him’. Let’s hope they keep Babalities out of it.

Female characters in video games - I have to admit there are a list of females that do use their legs alot

Yes

Chun-Li - Street Fighter
Cammy - Street Fighter

Grey Area

Christie Monteiro (Tekken) - Grey area since the art is leg focused.

No

Rose - Street fighter
Nina Williams - Tekken
Sophitia (As with most females in Soul Caliber)

Art - I have to agree that I much prefer to buy art on my own merits rather than the common view. I can’t see the biggie with paintings such as Mona Lisa,etc.

I’ve still got about 30 minutes left on the cast to listen to so I’ll post more when I’ve finished. I’ll do a recording with dodgy sounding place names and see how it sounds with an English accent.

Anyway keep up the good work, since I tend to listen to your podcast throughout the day, I tend to get through 2/3 a day (as we can listen at work). I’ve completed some arcs already - Xena, Conan (both I’ve picked up), Eve, Honorverse, Guild, aliens arc. I’ve got some many comments about them all, it’s hard to know where to start.

I’m so tempted to pick up Eve, but it seems like I won’t be able to give much time to it (as I already play a Star Trek Mush).

I haven’t seen Thomas Crown, so I can’t really comment on that section of the podcast.

BTW - I actually mentioned Crom in a sentence today, for some reason, I mentioned the words ‘For Crom’s sake’ and only 2 people got it which then prompted a whole discussion about sci-fi. That is alot better than my last job where as part of my leaving email, the subject was ‘So long and thanks for all the fish’. The amount of ‘What are you on about’ I got was staggering. I thought it was a well known phrase (like what is the answer to the universe, or live long and prosper).

Oh well…Keep up the good work.

Star Trek: Voyager is on my long list of shows I’ll Check Out One Day If I Get Time. I’d never seriously considered it before, but it’s on my other list of things I’ll Take The GWC Crew’s Word For.

Speaking of Voyager people with crazy stuff on their heads…

See, here was my beef with it when it launched, and in the early days: The producers create this series to have a Trek scenario, but remove it from the universe that Rodenberry and his successors had created. But then, for whatever reasons, they started leaning on the old series. Like, “Uh, people aren’t feeling it, so let’s break out the Borg.”

I guess it got better as it went along, but from my perspective, it seemed that it promised a whole new universe. But mostly, it served up new alien races with increasingly elaborate stuff on their heads.

Same with Enterprise - Never seen an episode past the first one (and I love the intro music).

Not just the head, they always add more ridges to the nose/forehead.

Oh, I envy you for that, never having seen Enterprise.

The basic approach – maybe at its extreme in Heroes – just bugs me, when producers/writers insist on “It’s different now! Wait, no it’s not! Wait, it’s different again! Wait, no it’s not!”

Well, I’d say if in both cases --Enterprise and Voyager — it was better to make changes when things weren’t working rather than continue down a path that didn’t work.

I’ve seen every episode of Voyage and Enterprise. And I had more disappointments with Enterprise, but there was some greatness there.

Introducing the Seven of Nine character into Voyager was a masterstroke. The episodes that revolved around her where, I thot, the most touching, most interesting and best character episodes. Seven’s relationship with the Captain, with the Doctor, with Tom Paris, with Kim —all very interesting.

Enterprise, in my opinion, SHOULD have done what they started doing with in the third season which is tie each episode with some legendary race, even etc. of Star Trek lore. In the first two seasons they attempted to be original with the Suliban and Time war (is that what it was called ?), and in the second season with the Xindi arc. Personally, I think they should have skipped all that and did more stuff with Star Trek root stuff: Klingons, Vulcans, Tellarites, Andorians ----when they started to get deeper into that stuff in the 3rd season the show really worked (IMO).

Yay, you used my Stargate Time Travel Arc (as a starting point at least). I did debate using Mobius as one of the episodes in it, but I thought it would fit better in my AU arc.

I already have a team figured out (in about 5 minutes), but I’ll probably wait to post it until after you guys make your picks (unless several other people make them first).

My beef really isn’t with changing courses so much as trying to have it both ways.

I could stomach the Time Wars stuff until the season cliffhanger where Archer came back to Earth, and the timeline was altered, and Earth was destroyed. I’ve said it before, but worst. cliffhanger. ever. As if there was any chance the rest of the show would be Archer walking around on a desolate earth, with the entire history of the Trek universe eradicated.

It’d be better if all shows could just start in the third or fourth season, once they had everything all figured out, from plot to chemistry. OK, that’s a bit much to ask for…

the only way she can fight is if I stick my head in her crotch…

…works for me! :smiley:

I need more explanation with the team thing but I have ideas

Bye the way, maybe somebody already mentioned it but,

the Mortal Kombat Trailer is not real.

It’s a real Director and professional actors but
http://www.collider.com/2010/06/09/kevin-tancharoen-interview-mortal-kombat-rebirth-feature-film/
more of a Directing effort from the guy who directed the new version of Fame in the hope to create a Buzz to get the gig.

Look’s like it worked :slight_smile:

Have to say for the hornblower tv series/ series of movies watch it in it self it is great to watch and beside jamie bamber is in it you can look in amazement at baby apollo.

I also quite enjoyed the tomas crown affair. It was certainly nothing like my vauge thought of what it would be when I didn’t watch it when it came out.

Now to raise my hand and say I like both Hancock and Enterprise so clearly good art.:slight_smile:

There has been nudity in PG rated films before. For example, PG rated films Airplane! and Kramer Vs Kramer has breasts in it. As for TCA and Showgirls, the difference is the ridiculously over-the-top sex scenes (lap dance, waterfall pool) in Showgirls. TCA nudity is tastefully done in my opinon.

What you will NEVER see in a PG movie is full frontal.

Not to sure who in the 'cast likes boobies (I want to say Sean) but here is some rhyming slang (in reference to rudish english place names)

Bristol (aka Bristol City)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bristol%20city's

Actual places in the UK

  1. Cocks, Cornwall
  2. Minge Lane, Upton-upon-Severn, Worcestershire, England
  3. Bell End, Worcestershire, England
  4. Twatt, Shetland (note, there is another Twatt in Orkney)
  5. Sandy Balls, a long-established holiday centre in New Forest, Hampshire, England with a name dating back to Henry VIII
  6. Fingringhoe, Essex, England
  7. Back Passage, City of London, an alleyway in the EC1 postal district
  8. Shitterton, Dorset, England
  9. Slag Lane, Merseyside, a residential street in Haydock, England
  10. Hole of Horcum, North York Moors, England
  11. Fanny Hands Lane, Lincolnshire, England
  12. Inchinnan Drive, Renfrewshire, Scotland
  13. Cockshoot Close, Oxfordshire, England
  14. Funbag Drive, Watford, England
  15. Fanny Avenue, Derbyshire, England
  16. Beaver Close, Surrey, England
  17. Dick Court, Lanarkshire, Scotland
  18. Felch Square, Powys, Wales
  19. Lickfold, West Sussex, England
  20. Rimswell, East Riding of Yorkshire, England
  21. Spanker Lane, Nether Heage, Derbyshire
  22. Cocknmouth Close, West End, Surrey
  23. Friars’ Entry, Oxford, Oxfordshire, England
  24. Butt Hole Road, Conisbrough, South Yorkshire
  25. Cockermouth, Allerdale, Cumbria
  26. Fine Bush Lane, Ruislip
  27. Ladygate Lane, Ruislip
  28. Hornyold Road, Malvern, Worcestershire, England
  29. Crotch Crescent, Marston, Oxford, England
  30. Cumming Court, Pitville, Gloucestershire, England

How ye English folk read a road map with a straight face I will never know. :slight_smile:

The Kazons? Talk about “low budget” - man they are what? Low rent Klingons? Oh and I love Audra’s “Really?!?!?” moments about Chakotay - reminded me of Stan Marsh in South Park!

about the Kazon ships, they actually explained how Kazon get space techs in the show. The Kazon history is actually a sad one. A spacefaring people called Trabes invaded and enslaved Kazon. Kazons finally rebelled and inherited Trabe tech afterwards.

Talk about douchebags, Trabes like Cardassians are natural born douchebags. To keep Kazons under control Trabes incited Kazons to fight among each other. After being driven off their own homeland, they proposed an alliance with Janeway to achieve a 3 sided peace treaty, when they are really planing to kill every Kazon instead, calling it the best peace plan in decades. That episode “Alliance” or something, also has a lot of Seska in it, along with “Worst Case Scenario” are in my mind the best Seska douchebag episodes.

About Voyager is best at later seasons, yes and no. Towards the end of season 3 the show was already heading in the right direction. Too bad year of hell season arc was killed for 7 of Nine. Season 4, and 5 were wonderful never the less. I liked 7 of Nine, but I don’t think she is the reason why those two seasons were great. I think those 2 seasons simply has the best writing. My favorite episodes from those seasons like Nemesis, Scientific Method, Message in a Bottle, Living Witness, Hope and Fear, In the Flesh and so on has nothing to do with 7.

By season 6 they already started to just please the fans by reusing successful plots and staying away from the more philosophical episodes. By season 7 it was just unbearable. The best part of 7 is her crew-interaction stories and moments, not those straight forward borg action episodes.

i had started listening to the podcast right at the start of the last fantasy league… i will definitely have to get involved in this one!!!

and audra, pg movies used to have boobs in them all the time… wasn’t till mid eighties that boobs became bad… lol

I have been keeping a mental log of road names in the UK, two of my favs are

Shaggy Calf Lane, in slough

Christmas Pie Avenue - Guildford

Hookers Lane - Walthamstow, London
Hoe Street - Walthamstow, London