11/2008 Winner: "Foundation" by Isaac Asimov

So, I finally finished after many delays (work has been a nightmare the last two months). Foundation and Robots of Dawn where I was given my true introduction into science fiction so it’s allways held a special place in my heart.

What I’ve always noticed is how Asimov seemed to grasp an understanding of human nature and the behavior of humans in certain environments.

It’s not hard to believe that there would be people who react the way they do at each cusp (Stranger in a Strange Land would be another awesome group read). How the commission reacts to Seldon and his people on Trantor. How Anacreon acts towards the Encyclopedists. How Weinis (sp?) reacts to the religion set up. How Mallow takes the next step for the Foundation. The list goes on. At each point, you can look at historical analogies of how similar items have occured.

I only wish we could include the rest of the trilogy as there are more examples there. You can compare Bel Riose to McArthur (as well as Marc Anthony, other Roman Generals, etc). While some may say that Truman recalled McArthur only because he was successful, we shouldn’t forget that McArthur disobeyed direct orders in order to achieve his own goals. While doing so, he was also successful (until the Chinese counterattack of course).

Looking forward to the TalkCast tomorrow. There should be some interesting discussion for this book.

I know I’m really late to the party on this, sorry, but I’m in the middle of Foundation and Empire, and I’m enjoying it quite a bit.

Thanks to the book club for making me aware of this great series.

As a question of interest, the back of my trilogy book has a comment which says that “Foundation is to Science Fiction what Lord of the Rings is to Fantasy”
Do you guys agree?

Absolutely!!

I actually don’t agree . . . back in 1966, the Foundation Series won “Best All-Time Series” in the Hugo awards, beating out Lord of the Rings :slight_smile: okay, maybe it’s a bit Apples-To-Oranges but while both are gripping and epic I think the scope and thought in the Foundation books put it on an entire other level.

Err, not trying to start a fight or anything, heh. Actually, as Wikipedia notes, “Asimov himself wrote that he assumed the one-time award had been created in order to honor The Lord of the Rings, and he was amazed when his work won.”

Sorry I’m coming to this rather late (was finishing my undergraduate degree around the time that this was active) but have any of you read the rest of the books now? I’d absolutely love to discuss them all, probably in a step-by-step manner since at every step there are so many salient concepts and revelations. I remember the Christmas many years ago when, much to my delight, I received a copy of Foundation and Earth (which was, at the time, not even being published in North America due to a publishing dispute; my parents found a used Trade Paperback printing from overseas). I believe I read it to the end that very day; the ending still strikes me!

Relatedly, what do you all think would be the best order to read the books in? Probably some hybrid of by-timeline and by-when-written, and it’s complicated by the need to include the robot series; one could probably read the early Robot novels and the original Foundation trilogy without having to worry about one before the other, but it gets trickier later on.

For the very end, I’d say Robots of Dawn at the same time or after Foundation’s Edge, and then Robots and Empire right before Foundation and Earth to end it all off. What mainly trips me up is I forget how much is spoiled in the two Foundation prequel novels.

I know there was a BBC radio 3 adaptation (in stereo, even!) but I seem to have lost my own copy; I don’t know how easy it would be to find, but if one is looking for an audio version that might be the best bet.

I should be finished up here with the Foundation Trilogy in a week or so,and I’d love to discuss it…
I found some confusion as I was picking up foundation at first because I didn’t know where to start: Foundation, prelude to Foundation… I’m glad there’s plenty more material out there though. I look forward to my lunch break so I can read. :slight_smile:

Personally, I think the following order is a good way to read it:

I, Robot
Caves of Steel
The Naked Sun
Robots of Dawn
Robots and Empire
The three Empire novels
Nemesis
The Foundation Trilogy
Foundation’s Edge
Foundation and Earth
Prelude to Foundation
Forward the Foundation

Ignore the ones not written by the master.

I don’t think the Robot novels nor Nemesis spoil things for later on, and I definitely agree that you cannot read the prequels before the 5 that were written before them. :smiley:

I’m currently reading “End of Eternity” by Asimov. I wonder if anyone knows if this is part of the “official” Asimov storyline or not. I think I heard something about that there initially had been some intention to make the Harlan character from End of Eternity appear in Foundation or so.

Okay. Finished “End of Eternity” yesterday.

Let me just say - NOW I know. It doesn’t add “much” in terms of quantity to the Foundation universe and storyline, but quality-wise, it provides the framework for the millennia-spanning story. It really does. I don’t want to give it away here, but this is a must-read for Foundation fans. You’ll see everything so much clearer after having learned what Asimov’s vision for a world WITHOUT Foundation would be. This is awesome. And I could well imagine that someone like Chuck who really seems to enjoy these huge storylines would just LOVE to see how End of Eternity, a mere 180-pages novel manages to wrap itself around more than 100,000 years of Foundation universe history. It’s so damn insightful and clear … in a way only Asimov could have done it. Definitely recommended.

Sold. First week out of work I’ll go get it at the library. The idea of what Asimov would image as a world without Foundation is a great premise for an Asimov story.