11/2007: Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

I recently finished Children of the Mind, and am waiting for my book credits on my membership at Audible to come 'round again for Ender’s Shadow!

Excellently performed! I love the bonus at the end of each with Orson Scott Card- he really goes in depth about the inspirations and backgrounds.

I can’t wait to get to Bean’s story! :smiley:

I bought this book years ago when I was a member of the ScFi book of the month club. This would give me a reason to finally read the darn thing.

I would definitely recommend this book - and the whole series along with it, including the Ender’s Shadow Saga.

Need to dig out and re-read the Worthing Saga sometime - many years since I read it.

Oddly enough re-reading Ender’s Game more recently I was in some vague way disappointed. I definitely think there are parts of Orson Scott Card’s writing which have tightened up over the years, but on the other hand I know I’m predisposed to series’’’’ of book rather than onesers due to the amount of travel time I get.

Ender’s Game is one of a number of stories which has appeared in various forms and thus its quite a nice one to use to explore the extension from a short story to 200 page novel, if you are into that sort of thing (I’m not so much, but I have other family members who are, and I do understand that it could be of interest).

Anyway… that’s all, otherwise people will get worried about me escaping from the gutter.

I read Ender’s Game (and the 3 books after it, plus the Bean arc) last summer as part of my post MA comprehensive exams celebration. I loved Ender’s Game itself, and wasn’t a fan of Speaker, Xenocide, etc. I did, however, like the Bean arc a lot. Though, I liked the first of those better than the rest, those young kids having kids kinda freaked me out.

The first Ender book followed by the Beans Shadow series are some of my favorite books ever. I dug them so much that i named my cats after them.

Ender lives up to his name as a fear less attack anything dude…even a pitbull once

Bean however is an abject coward…

I read Ender’s Game so long ago when the three book collection was different than now. I reread it with my class of Juniors and Seniors. They were really surprised to find out it was written before anyone played games on the internet.

I think its cool that a book that this book is now among the reading in some military theory classes. It’s also the book that got my step-dad to realize that Sci Fi isnt all just silly none sense. its defiantly up there on one of my most read books

The movie was almost made many times. The reason it wasn’t is that the author wanted to keep Ender so young. He refused to let Ender become 16 at the start of the book. I think if he turned down so many chances to do the movie due to the characters age he will be careful to be true to his book.

OSC said after watching Serenity that he won’t let his book be made into a movie unless it can be as good as Serenity. I know he is working on a script. I don’t think it could be made into a movie easily and not have an ‘R’ rating. With as much child on child violence that is necessary to make the characters right. I almost think it would have to be animated but that wouldn’t feel right i think…unless it was Don Bluth style sore of like Titan A.E.

Woo, Ender’s Game. A great book. Have any of you read the version with the auther’s preface? It gives a lot of insight into some of the themes of the book.

I actually read this once in fourth grade and most of it went over my head. I’ve re read it recently and I finally realized how deep it was… It has some great and really unique ideas.

I’ve never read any of his other books. From what I read, though, I should really read them.

And I think an animated Ender’s Game movie would suck no matter the style, although the Titan AE stlye would be perferred. I think it would need to be live action to be visceral enough to convey the messages properly. But I think maybe it would work with good enough actors and a very, very large budget.

Hey Mage…

If you really dug the book you should check out Enders Shadow. Its more or less the same story but told from the character Beans Pov. The rest of the shadow series follows Bean and i think is much better than the Ender series. The Ender series is more philosophical and stuff while Bean is much more actiony which is more my pint of beer

I agree that I liked the Bean series better than the Ender series… but part of my issue with the Ender series was the whole, hey let’s transport a bunch of Brazilian Catholics into the book! I could never get past the random Portuguese usage. Plus I was also irritated by the culture usage, I’m not sure I’m articulating this correctly but the asian society with the people who follow the lines rubbed me the wrong way too.

Edited to add: OSC did his missioning in Brazil, so at least he spoke some of the language.

When I read the book with my class of high tech gamers it put a real different spin on the book. When I read it the internet was not a place to hang with friends and play games (I am not sure if it existed then). My students do play war games with people in other countries. They were rather shocked to think that they could really be fighting a war. The essays that came out of that thought was really incredible.

Yeah, it’s pretty amazing how forward thinking Orson Scott Card was. Wars being fought from afar? Children playing war games? Anonymous influence over a network of computers? Preposterous, of course. None of that could…

Actually ever…

Happen… :rolleyes:

You are correct it could never happen. :eek:

What do you think the first three Call of Duty’s were about?

Military officers from the future came back to our time and created that game. Then they sent cyborgs back to World War II with the ability to receive signals from our time. Since the cyborgs were a bit like Stormtroopers they were set to be controlled by kids from the present day.
In the original history we lost that war.

It’s kind of like Terminator meets Ender’s Game.

It has happened before, It won’t happen again.

Does that mean in HALO we are fighting a war in the future from the past, PWNing all them n00bs jr high style

No, Halo is pure fiction. The new mission is to genetically engineer a race of super creatures to fight against the evil alien races that won’t accept Christianity as their religion. :wink:
This long awaited game will be called Spore.

All,

As Ender’s Game has been selected as a group read book the conversation will continue here

I read Ender’s Game over the summer; I was pretty impressed by it. It was a very interesting read, though rather long winded. I felt sure the book was going to end several times during my read but to no avail.

 The zero-g fighting was quite excellent and made me think about space in a way I never had before.  

 I thought that Ender's siblings were a bit odd and not completely believable, if not very interesting.  Very smart children indeed.  

 The game Ender plays was probably my favorite part of the entire book.  The bit with the giant and everything beyond it was fascinating.  All in all it was a good book with a few weird flaws.  

 Also, Card is virulently homophobic and mormon?  I'm not sure at that latter point but he's definitely written some hateful things about gay people.  But I don't think that diminishes his work.