1/2011 Winner: China Miéville, "The City & The City

So while looking at some books while doing some holiday shopping I saw a copy of this and it looked interesting… perhaps others might be interested as well?

From Amazon:

The city is Beszel, a rundown metropolis on the eastern edge of Europe. The other city is Ul Qoma, a modern Eastern European boomtown, despite being a bit of an international pariah. What the two cities share, and what they don’t, is the deliciously evocative conundrum at the heart of China Mieville’s The City & The City. Mieville is well known as a modern fantasist (and urbanist), but from book to book he’s tried on different genres, and here he’s fully hard-boiled, stripping down to a seen-it-all detective’s voice that’s wonderfully appropriate for this story of seen and unseen. His detective is Inspector Tyador Borlu, a cop in Beszel whose investigation of the murder of a young foreign woman takes him back and forth across the highly policed border to Ul Qoma to uncover a crime that threatens the delicate balance between the cities and, perhaps more so, Borlu’s own dissolving sense of identity. In his tale of two cities, Mieville creates a world both fantastic and unsettlingly familiar, whose mysteries don’t end with the solution of a murder.

It won the Hugo this year as well.

Mieville is a pretty darn good writer.

Love his books. Te local bookstore owner who happens to be a amazingly hot lady recommended it to me. I took it on vacation and read the whole first book Perdido St station in a week. The dark steampunk was really what I needed at the time.

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Ooh, I loved this book. Great idea, great story, and the audiobook was fantastically read.

Have read a little more about this and it sounds very intriguing. It has my vote.

Wow, along with the the 2010 Hugo (Tied with The Windup Girl by Paolo Bacigalupi), it also won the 2010 Arthur C. Clarke prize, the World Fantasy Award, and Locus Award in the Fantasy genre. Not a shabby track record!

The Book Club selection for January and February is China Miéville’s Hugo Award Winning The City & The City (2009)!

I could not see the street or much of the estate. We were enclosed by dirt-coloured blocks, from windows out of which leaned vested men and women with morning hair and mugs of drink, eating breakfast and watching us. This open ground between the buildings had once been sculpted. It pitched like a golf course - a child’s mimicking of geography. Maybe they had been going to wood it and put in a pond. There was a copse but the saplings were dead.

SPOILERS AHEAD

This has been selected as the January/February 2011 selection, check out the (spoilers) discussion here.

Well I’ve been searching high and low for a copy over the last few weeks. Finally got my hands on a used copy at an amazing used bookstore, and grabbed Game of Thrones while I was there for good measure. Bring on the City! (and the City).

I’m looking forward to having an afternoon to read sometime soon (I’m running up against a writing deadline), but I have a library copy of the book, so that’s set :slight_smile:

Ran out with it in my pocket on Sunday hoping that the dog would choose the direction of the local Starbucks, so I could sit down and read. However, it was not to be, and he chose the park instead… Curses, foiled again.

Interestingly, I had such a negative experience trying to buy TC&TC at the local big box that it may drive me to buy an eReader. Hmmmmmm… now I’m on the fence.

I got it on Audible. So glad I got a membership!

YIKES, Wish the forum had a spoiler tag.

Being totally unfamiliar with Mieville’s other works and the content of The City & the City, I decided to dive in based on the awarding of the Hugo for best novel.

Upon encountering what seemed to be some very postmodern notions of divisions, transgressions and boundaries and some very direct pointers to current and historical locations divided by political and ethnic ideologies, I settled in for some heady and abstract storytelling. What I found however was a squandered opportunity to explore these issues and subjects in favor of a somewhat gritty detective story. These missed opportunities take the form of Unseeing, Breach, and the Divided City.

Unseeing:
From the beginning of the novel we are at odds to determine whether the Unseeing and the existence of the two cities or nations is something more akin to parallel universes, quantum realities and such or something more grounded in reality as a mere social convention. This for me formed an essential mystery that I had hoped might not be resolved but explored and played with within the range of these possibilities. However, within the first few chapters we learn that Unseeing is merely a social construct, a way of acting and behaving that must be taught to children.

The idea that this way of being and seeing is merely an ingrained way of behaving and not a more fundamental existential and psychological condition is born out when Inspector Tyador Borlú must transgress the boundary to the other city to continue his investigation. He characterizes the efforts of the Ul Qoma to transform his way of seeing so that he may see Ul Qoma to avoid “Breaching” as childish and insulting, and of course, unnecessary.

Mieville strips away what could have continued to be a mystery and a space to explore in favor of a very narrow, very physical explanation. By making the notion of Unseeing and likelihood of incidental Breach so ordinary, he squanders the opportunity to have his characters discover or explore the basis of the division of the cities and of Unseeing, and for himself as the author to explore the nature of this division, be it social, psychological, physical, and/or ideological, and of division itself.

Breach:
Breach is a numinous mystery whose power preserves, adjudicates, and maintains division. That the agency of this power is later physically manifested in the form of an Avatar that carries mere technological implements was deeply disappointing. For most of the novel, the relatively abstract nature of Breach provides a fertile ground for thinking about the nature of transgression. The physical manifestation of Breach removes these possibilities in favor of some mere technological and “alien” authority.

The text also suggests a more political interpretation of the idea of Breach as interceding and controlling authority. The political powers of the two city nations bristle at the suggestion that the murder investigation be turned over to Breach, characterizing Breach, as a foreign power. The parallels in The City and the City to politically and ideologically divided locations such as Berlin, Bosnia/Herzegovina, Srebrenica, Jerusalem, and Palestine led me to see Breach not only as some force beyond normal reality but also as an indication of the external political forces that reinforce division amongst peoples.

By giving such an ordinary manifestation to Breach, Mieville squanders all the mysterious cache he builds up in favor of supermen, of avatars, of a science fiction cliche.

The Divided City:
The tangible connections that Mieville intends for the reader to make between this divided city and its real world counterparts adds gravity and sense of relevance to the entire proceedings. The people of Bes?el and Ul Qoma would seem to be none other than the Serbs and Croats right down to one people’s use of Roman and the other’s of Cyrillic alphabets. The setting is Balkan to be sure. Yet, Mieville allows in his Berlin, in his Jerusalem, absolutely no tangible consequences of this division to these divided people. This divided city is post-conflict, post-industrial, post-consequences, where an all powerful authority maintains division and the only consequence is for the individual who Breaches. Yet in these real world counterparts people do indeed suffer. There is conflict. There is suffering. There is death. And no convenient super-authority to keep the peace.

Mieville cashes in on the political weight of these real divided locations of suffering to add gravitas to a division without difference, without consequence. The economic fates of one city/nation or another is passed off as mere history or ebb and flow/rise and fall. The ideological differences are couched in mere amorphous terms of authoritarianism vs social democracy with one being hard to tell from another. Or the divisions are of the variety of mildly religious vs secular. There is none of the weight, none of the consequence of the real, thorough and abiding economic, social, ideological, and religious divisions that Mieville seems to want the reader to find within the story of these two city nations.

Here again, Mieville squanders the opportunity to ground this division in something tangible and to explore this space where division and transgression intersect in suffering and death. The division between these two peoples is bloodless and is mediated by an authority outside themselves which denies them any accountability for that division and for maintaining that division. There are no real consequences for these people other than a denial of the existence of the other, whereas the consequences of the divided city and the divided nation in our own world are real, are deadly, and are within our own responsibility to overcome.

While there was much that I did enjoy about The City and the City, I had entirely different expectations of the subject matter than what Mieville had intended. That he chose to eschew these much larger and difficult issues and to tell what seemed to be a less than complicated detective story full of hard-bitten, swearing gumshoes interrogating hapless twenty somethings and ideological idiots with a touch of “Dan Brownian” intrigue in the form of Orciny was wholly disappointing. I enjoyed the prose. The concepts were interesting but unexplored. And the opportunity squandered.

Welcome aboard, Lepton. Heck of a first post.

So I grabbed a few minutes yesterday and started in on the novel - I’m not very far (I’m not joking about the “minutes” bit), but I’m definitely getting a feel like what I’m reading about is happening in an episode of Prime Suspect.

It’s also making me think about Michael Chabon’s The Yiddish Policeman’s Union.

More commentary as I read more…

I sat down and read the whole thing this morning. I love the concept of seeing/unseeing, and Borlu’s obsession with solving the case, and really, the plot in general. I think I need to think on it a bit more, but it’s been ages since I’ve read a “fun” book that was so well written, though it took me awhile to get used to the sentence structure at the start.

I had always been interested but vaguely so in China’s books, so I’m glad one finally won and I took the time to sit down and read it (rather than just hear good things said about it).

Anyways like I said, I’ll probably have more to say as I digest it a bit more.

And in quick response to Lepton (which also - welcome! I didn’t want to read your entire post until I had read the book) - I think your observations are totally valid in terms of what expectations might be for the novel. As you can see from my initial impressions, even though I don’t read much detective fiction at all, the first chapter threw me straight into that world-of-reference, and so for me the novel was much more about the detecting, the crime, the investigation, etc. Though Mieville sets up Beszel/Ul Qoma in such a way as to give it resonance with many a current and historical geopolitical issue, I couldn’t put my finger on just one or the other, rather it’s an amalgam, which I thought was a great way to make the place seem very real while also very foreign. I also liked the physical, material-ness of the solution - it fit very well with the archaeology, the talk of material culture, and existence in liminality, etc., in my mind. I don’t think the novel is a squandered opportunity at all, but rather, as an exploration of different issues than the ones one might assume it might have dealt with.

I am of two minds concerning this book. I love hard-boiled detective novels and I love intelligent social/science fiction. What China Mieville is going for appears to be trying to tell a compelling social study through a plot-driven structure like a murder mystery. The problem is that both of these aspects clash violently because they take too much attention away from the other.

From here, there may be spoilers.

I understand the constraints of existential storytelling. But sometimes I feel that writers take to this form as a means to not have to explain to the audience why things are the way it is. I found this to be the case with this novel. We never get a plausible reason as to why this city is the way it is and yet the rules of these cities are so flawed I wouldn’t be surprised if most people living there don’t breach before 20. This is made even more dubious as it appears to be the only city that lives this way in the world. Who would want to live/visit there with the constant threat of such a laughable crime?

If the City were a metaphor, what for? As Lepton put it much better than I could, it can’t be about class or religious distinction as there is no consequence. It cannot be a parable of bureaucracy run amok as the status quo is seen as logical to all but a few who see it as a social problem. Is this a kind of ode to socialism and if so, why does it hark so much on the fact that the world is appalled by this city’s rules?

The rules of Breach make no sense and serves no purpose outside of creating an authoritarian fear. Considering that it appears that no one from either city ever can leave, doesn’t it feel more oppressive? Mieville never really makes it clear what Breach really is or what it stands for. I was appalled by the novel making them these heroes of order when I felt them being oppressors of freedom. It was like seeing the Klan being the heroes of Birth of a Nation.

The mystery itself was okay, but I was constantly distracted by the mixed social messages of the story.

I read it as a thorough indoctrination into Breach/the cities - and actually it made a lot of sense for me. I prefer books that don’t feel the need to explain or rationalize the fantastic aspects, because if I’m going to suspend my disbelief, then the explanations throw me out of that suspension. But back to the ideas of the rules (which, for me at least, didn’t need to be articulated): if you think about the way we in the Western world (I don’t pretend to speak to elsewhere) absorb attitudes, beliefs, and prejudices as children without realizing what’s going on, it doesn’t appear to be too much of a stretch that, instead of absorbing the belief that God literally created the earth in seven days, or that Men are inherently better than Women, or that white people are inherently better than non-white people, the people in the cities would buy into the idea that the other city isn’t there, and that they can inhabit the same physical space while not actually doing so.