The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe 12/2 @ 10 PM ET

Sadly, people either rely on a deity to do something or promote their own agenda while speaking in the deity’s name. It’s not an excuse as much as a choice.

It’s about becoming like Aslan.

As you see in this scene, Aslan is breathing on the frozen bringing them back. Lucy runs off with her elixir to do the same.

My point is that he could have literally ended her, as he did in this battle, at any point. Failing that, he could have sacrificed himself a hundred years ago, broken the stone table, and freed Narnia before she had a chance to freeze it in the first place.

Oh, and royalty bestowed by the grace of [strike]God[/strike] Aslan. :rolleyes:

“Don’t worry. We’ll see him again.” Again, subtle. :stuck_out_tongue:

“You wouldn’t believe us, sir.”
“Try me.”

So, obviously, the implication is that he’s been there before himself, right?

Perhaps, he did. There may have been many agents of evil that have risen and fell. Aslan is teaching them. It’s a humbling experience to meet him but you can’t rest on his mane. You’ve got to take some responsibility. You want Narnia to stay like this. Make sure someone like the Witch doesn’t get too strong or influential.

Yes. He’s been a King of Narnia.

Again, though, what about all the innocent [strike]people[/strike] critters who suffered and died because he decided to teach the world a lesson? It’s a simple matter of theodicy.

I thot once you were king, you were always king.

Does Peter have to kill him now? :eek:

Well. It is theodicy. Aslan can’t help what he is. I could go with the cop-out answer: I can’t know the mind of [strike]God[/strike] Aslan. But to your point, another argument would be why can’t we all not just emulate Aslan? Why can’t we be Aslan? Why am I a Beaver or a Centaur or a Wolf or a Badger?

I don’t know.

I’ve had this argument with myself many times before. In the end, I’ve realized that whether I am a believer or not doesn’t change who I am as a person. I still act the same way. I still treat others the same way. OTOH, when I try and justify my belief or non-belief, something doesn’t feel right. It feels like I have something to prove.

I begin to wonder. What am I trying to prove? Who am I trying to convince? I’ve missed out on getting to know the person(s) and instead tried to express some personal agenda. That’s not loving, it’s authoritarian.

Not unless you go on sabbatical.

You snooze, you lose Old-Timer.

Because you are who you are. Aslan is who he is. Even the White Witch is who she is. Are you familiar with the fable of the frog and the scorpion?

“It’s my nature.”

Not that we shouldn’t aspire to be more than we are, but it’s unreasonable to believe that we should all be someone else.

I’ve had this argument with myself many times before. In the end, I’ve realized that whether I am a believer or not doesn’t change who I am as a person. I still act the same way. I still treat others the same way.

True enough. Morality is a personal thing, faith or not. How many times have immoral actions been excused by a declaration of faith. Being a good person doesn’t depend on an external source of goodness. IMO, of course. :stuck_out_tongue:

OTOH, when I try and justify my belief or non-belief, something doesn’t feel right. It feels like I have something to prove.

As Carl Sagan said, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I begin to wonder. What am I trying to prove? Who am I trying to convince? I’ve missed out on getting to know the person(s) and instead tried to express some personal agenda. That’s not loving, it’s authoritarian.

True. That’s why such proselytizing is generally the domain of organized religions, which (more often than not) are more interested into accumulating power than exploring truth. :frowning: