I may the only one here, but I think this weeks episode was more character driven than last weeks. There was a real feeling at the end of this episode of “everything has changed”, for Lee, for Starbuck, for Boomer, for Cylon evolution.
Or it could be just me 
Boomer has had a bad attitude ever since we saw Athena meet up with her and rescue Hera from the base star. Boomer actually threatened to kill the baby, remember?
I definitely think it’s Boomer with Cavill in the beginning. Something is up with the two of them - that’s why she voted the way she did.
I think Boomer has such a bad attitude because she feels she was “robbed” of her existence with the fleet. She spent the most time with everyone, but it’s Athena who gets to be in love and have a baby and be respected by Adama and the rest of the crew. She lost all of that because her programming switch went off, and she’s resentful of it.
Although,you guys know alot more about what happens to boomer in this episode…as in I know nothing besides the fact that something is up with her and Cavil, and something is up with a resistence, which I i knew anyway lol.
But, for what its worth, I think Boomer has always felt a robbed. Athina is everything Boomer wants to be. Now, I’m speaking from Boomer’s perspective right now, keep in mind. Boomer was the one in love! Boomer was the one who was supossed to have a baby! Boomer was the one in the coloinal fleet in the first place.
In the end, Athina is,a nd was, everything Boomer should have been, and everything Boomer will never be.
I really liked the party scene, but it would have been better done at the end. The party happened while Kara was in the brig, and all her friends and relation are partying it up? It would have been more realistic had Adama went from the sending off to the party and made an announcement.
I completely agree with you Emily.
Maybe but then we wouldn’t have Adama’s catalyst for letting her go with the triple team of the picture of her, zak, and Lee’s “Absent Friends”
So say we all!
i love the end of this episode- where adama tells kara essentially that both she and roslyn are right. he believes them both, and will not sacrafice kara’s possibility of locating earth or roslyn’s protection of the fleet (however misguided her actions have seemed in the past season)…i think this is important for adama, as it shows him regaining his own moral compass (nice that they show him taking the aurora figurine off – dare i say it --the wooden ship), and not just enabling the president’s bad decisions…
and also i think it is this sort of thinking- letting 2 equally true but opposite points of view coexist will be somehow key in the survival/future of the fleet, in finding earth, and in reconciling the final five with the other cylons…
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First post here - just to introduce myself, my name is Ryan and I’ve listened off and on since the third season premiere. I unfortunately fell a bit behind and would needed to have flown to Australia and back with my ipod to catch up on all episodes, so I hope everyone enjoyed the rewatch. 
I also host a podcast and know how time consuming it can be, so I just wanted to let everyone know that they’re doing an amazing job and should be extremely proud of the community they’ve built here!
I’m retyping all of these comments from scratch, so I’ll be a bit briefer this time. Long story short, I felt letdown by the season premiere and was blown away by last night’s episode. Maybe I’m just a sucker for the emotional stuff, but I just felt that I walked away from the premiere not knowing anything I didn’t know before. It asked a lot of questions - very interesting questions clearly - but there was no real payoff, and that’s what I think BSG does very well.
Last night’s episode really shows how far RDM has come since his DS9 days. While he put together an incredible ten episode finale to Deep Space, I feel it was a great example of the 80/20 rule. 80% of the storyline was ended brilliantly. 20% was sort of duct-taped on there. A lot of plots were left dangling, and a lot of the characters didn’t get the proper goodbyes they deserved.
I truly believe we saw the end of Lee/Starbuck last night, at least for a very long time. We got true closure to Lee/Dee, which I was never a fan of for a moment - their entire relationship, like one of the hosts said, was an example of people making really, really stupid decisions which cause Billy to spin in his grave. The Bill/Laura scene was probably one of my top scenes in the series. They’re the leaders of humanity, and nobody else can understand what that’s like. Bill can’t afford to lose anyone else and Laura is afraid her death, which I believe is all but certain, will count for nothing. Between this scene and Bill beating the snot out of Starbuck, I’m bronzing the entire episode.
Questions and comments I had -
So the Cylons models all speak in unison and vote as a model? So Boomer switching sides gave Cavill a miniscule victory? I’ll try to hold back the Bush v Gore reference I want to make.
Does Starbuck have the scars from the farm? She hasn’t mentioned Leoben, so if she’s really Starbuck that memory was wiped. If she is a duplicate (I don’t believe she’s a Cylon), did the original Starbuck continue on with Leoben and learn anything more from him? I believe he represented the Ship of the Lights and there’s a lot more going on here than we realize. (I know. No kidding.)
I haven’t lurked, so excuse a stupid question. The humans created the Centurions who rebelled and constructed skinjobs and hybrids. The skinjobs neutered the Centurions, were programmed themselves not to consider the Final Five, who I was under the impression as of the episode that shall not be named originated from Earth somehow. (Watchtower). The question I want someone on the show to address - who programmed the skinjobs? The Centurions? If so, does their being released by Brunette Six now mean that they can answer some questions? Maybe that was another reason to release them, other than the fact that they have machine guns for arms?
That’s all I have. PS - if Bill O’Reilly watches BSG, any guesses how long before he suggests that the Cylons are demonstrating a radical feminist agenda by executing all of their men?
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Interestingly, for me it felt kinda the other way around. I’m also a big sucker for the emotional stuff, but what we saw in this week’s episode didn’t feel as heart-felt as, say, Home Part I&II.
But what I took issue the most with was the scene right at the beginning, Starbuck and Roslin - that wasn’t Starbuck. Real Starbuck would have taken the president hostage and shot her way to a Raptor. But that was just stupid. I honestly think that was an incidence of bad writing on BSG.
Also, Roslin, what the frak is up with her? Jealous of Starbuck like a high school drama queen.
I truly believe we saw the end of Lee/Starbuck last night, at least for a very long time.
Yeah, well, chances are they’re gonna be separated by a few million light years very soon.
So the Cylons models all speak in unison and vote as a model? So Boomer switching sides gave Cavill a miniscule victory? I’ll try to hold back the Bush v Gore reference I want to make.
The Cylon subplot was by far more interesting than what happened in the Galactica. Some many new ideas there, the restraining bolt removed from the Centurions (whom Cavil pronounces “Centaurions”) - I wish I could find that post Chuck made with the advance info on Caprica, that would clear up a lot.
Does Starbuck have the scars from the farm?
We saw Starbuck’s scars? When was that?
She hasn’t mentioned Leoben, so if she’s really Starbuck that memory was wiped.
I’m going with she’s either suppressing that memory are deliberately holding this information back. What would people suppose if she told them a Cylon was in her head?
I haven’t lurked, so excuse a stupid question. The humans created the Centurions who rebelled and constructed skinjobs and hybrids. The skinjobs neutered the Centurions, were programmed themselves not to consider the Final Five, who I was under the impression as of the episode that shall not be named originated from Earth somehow. (Watchtower). The question I want someone on the show to address - who programmed the skinjobs? The Centurions? If so, does their being released by Brunette Six now mean that they can answer some questions? Maybe that was another reason to release them, other than the fact that they have machine guns for arms?
That is one theory. I need to find that post on the blog, I have some thoughts about the FF.
That’s all I have. PS - if Bill O’Reilly watches BSG, any guesses how long before he suggests that the Cylons are demonstrating a radical feminist agenda by executing all of their men?
Hehe. “Eights share those breats - Ones this brain”
Edit: I found the info I was talking about. Will make new thread for this soon.
We didn’t, and that was a glaring ru-roh in my opinion. Starbuck at the end of the premiere was questioning whether she was grown in a dish somewhere. Why not check to see if you still have the scars?
Wow. That IS a very good question.
In the past, it looked like the scars mysteriously appeared and disappeared again whenever the writers needed them. I think you’re onto a very big gap in their logic here.