How to Train Your Dragon 10/22 @ 11 PM ET

“Did you get her?”

Toothless check.

I noticed that I nervously laughed because I was getting choked up.

OK. That big dragon is flying but none of the mist moves as it flies through it. That’s a pretty big animating mistake. No?

Tootleless is pretty bad-ass with that fire power, etc. Reminds me of a Shadow vessel.

Death by indigestion and heartburn.

So, perhaps I’m overthinking this, but treating the big, scary dragon like a monster while insisting that the others are just scared animals a bit hypocritical?

Were they just hiding Hiccup so the poor wee kiddies in the movie theatre could cry? That’s just mean.

Without the unnerving screaming inside your mind. :eek:

And explosive impact with solid rock. :stuck_out_tongue:

And he lost a foot! :eek:

The big monster represents the system that keeps us all at each others’ throats. Or something like that. Down with the MAN!!

Beautiful and heart-warming.

The food is tough and tastless, and the people even more so… But on the upside are the pets, we have DRAGONS!:smiley:

But isn’t that essentially the same issue that he had with his father and the entire Viking culture? Basically, the dragons completely abandoned their way of life to help the humans who’ve killed them en masse, ultimately slaughtering their leader in the process. One side overcomes their daddy issues, while the other commits patricide! :eek:

It’s from a childrens book for christsake, …aren’t you overthinking this a bit?

Yes, with just a bit of humanocentricism to round it out. :rolleyes:

Well, no. Big dragon was a dictator. The dragons were slaves to its will. They were sent into enemy territory and forced to forage for the wealth of the king, so to speak. Now, both societies can work together without oppression.

Better than underthinking, I’d say. :slight_smile:

Which, really, is sort of the point, isn’t it? The unthinking tendency to destroy anything that’s different, anything that we don’t understand, until a single boy who decides to try a different path.

But then, when faced with a seemingly implacable foe, they ignore everything that they’ve learned about dragons and just mindlessly kill it like a monster. :frowning:

Isn’t the Viking culture the same at the beginning? Who knows who really started this conflict? Maybe humans killed dragons first, and they’ve just been defending themselves, as Hiccup himself said.

Well, in that case, why didn’t Big Dragon just exit the cave go to the Viking town and wipe them out. It wouldn’t have been that hard for it to do that. It was content with the system in place.

So was the Viking leadership. I’m just playing Devil’s advocate here, but it might have strengthened the message of not judging a book by its cover if that message actually made it throughout the movie. They didn’t even try to reason with the Big Dragon. They just decided that he was a big, evil monster and killed him, just as they had been doing with the other dragons up to that point. There’s over an hour of telling us that everything we know about dragons is wrong and that humans shouldn’t harm them, and then they end up killing a dragon anyway? Kind of a mixed message, IMO.

I hear what you’re saying but that wasn’t the message I got. I saw the dragons as oppressed, as I mentioned earlier. They couldn’t free themselves from the tyranny and were really caught in the middle. They didn’t seem that interested in protecting their Queen since all the dragons got the frak outta there. The story expressed pretty clearly what the problem was for all the parties involved.

They all worked together to overthrow a dictator so they could live and work together. Hiccup and Toothless helped open that communication and helped others to see past their differences. The Vikings and Dragons no longer live in fear.

That being said, we didn’t get much exposition from the Big Dragon. It just ate everything, dragon or human. It posed a threat to both parties and obstructed the lives of everyone. It wasn’t like it was just minding its own business and getting it’s own food. No, it sat back in its safe dwelling and forced others to face death to feed it. In my book, Big Dragon had to go as did the prejudice the Vikings had for the dragons. Both were vanquished by the end of the film.