I’m about two hours northwest of Shanghai by car. And I think your description runs the through the things I’ve read. There is some of the local culture hanging around, but I am seeing a lot of American steamrolling over Chinese culture, as well as the problems of urbanization. Of course, I don’t know if I can ever consider a city of 1 million as a ‘pretty little city.’
considering the population of Los Angeles is 3 million and Shanghai is 18 million, i think it’s a “pretty, little city” (not pretty little, city). any smaller i might have to call it a town 
Considering the town I grew up in had just less than 5000 people…
This little video interviewing Katie Sackhoff gives you a good explaination about the B & B & D shots in The Plan. You’ll have to turn your sound WAY up cause it’s hard to hear otherwise. 
Great 'cast as always!
bad location, but I gotta say the BSG world was sexually free, but skiffy really wouldn’t allow the boobage and package. So The Plan was an attempt to show that side, albeit poorly. It did come across as Porky’s the way the scene was filmed. However, this was a ret-con clip show (and, I think, a really well done one) and it was going to feel forced.
If skiffy had allowed nudity it would have been more a part of the flow of the show making The Plan seem normal instead of out of place.
frakking gods… that was awesome…
so the fact that there’s a lack of dong shots in The Plan is of no fault of EJO
Audra definitely needs to see this.
Why do we in this country make such a big deal out of female nudity? We are one step above the Taliban in the way we treat nudity. Every other country in the world except muslim countries and the USA is much more accepting of the human body and it’s beauty. That fact that we are even discussing this on a podcast shows we have not yet moved beyond our petty little insecurities. I think the biggest point they were trying to make in the locker room scene was that stuff like that does not even phase people who are more advanced than we are.
True story. On quite a few occasions Ive heard people raise objections to something on that point alone. Sure, its fine if the bad guy gets brutally decapitated but if you show my kid a nipple Im starting a letter writing campaign.
So, I have to say that I listen to the podcasts in chunks, and though I listen as things happen, sometimes a day may pass until I listened to it all.
I just heard the fact that the Lord of the Rings would be the next arc, and I got incredibly excited. LotR was my first love (in book terms), and if you think my memory was good on the vampire bit, just wait til we talk about LotR. As Chuck says, the e-mails will fly.
@TGPAL @LC
I want to be crystal clear that I’m not opposed to nudity and don’t appreciate the way we USAians handle it in terms of what we’ll broadcast on TV (or what most people here find offensive). I don’t know that you’re actually doing this, but I’ve received some email that cast my podcast discussion contributions in that light. I find myself much more comfortable with European nudity broadcast standards, though they have their own funny and entertaining set of quibbles, too. And I’m totally down with 64kCylon’s idea that it’d have made perfect sense if the nudity was there from the beginning.
But it wasn’t. And that’s what made it so funny. It’s like you’re watching a Bourne flick and they inserted five seconds of Porky’s. I’m not offended; I like both flicks. But I don’t think it’s what they were going for. 
Truth be told my comment was meant in a general or collective sense. I actually havent even heard all of this cast and still havent seen The Plan (shame on me). Personally I always enjoy some good ol’ fashioned nekkidness in my tv/movie programming, but it sounds like the stuff in The Plan was more of a ‘hey, look what we I can do!’
Was thinking while the Crüe were talking about Cally and Tyrol, I don’t think Cally was mentally stable. I think all the stress and everything that was going on broke her. Remember, she was in the launch tube before Tori got there. She was planning to do something stupid anyhow. At least Tori saved Nicky.
Because of Cally’s mental state, I don’t think we can judge whether she loved Tyrol or not. She already suspected Galen was sleeping around, finding out he was a Cylon was just sauce for the goose. I understand that if you love someone you accept them, faults and all. Yet when you’re talking about mental instability, all bets are off. The person is not in their right mind.
IYKWIM
do you want to touch my batterang?
The Anita Blake books by Laurell K. Hamilton also showed both vampires and werewolves, and other were creatures (there creatures!), in a highly sexualized way.
sure…as long as it’s a free touch!
I’ve missed ‘Cylon(z)’…
There’s a difference between being modest and being a prude. In many situations–such as a military co-ed washroom (if that exists outside of BSG)–you’re just going to have to deal with it to do what you have to do. On the other hand, it can be just as respectful of a person’s sexuality to prevent them from being unwillingly or exploitatively exposed as it is to appreciate them in the context of beauty and intimacy.
I don’t know that EVERY country is “more advanced” than we are in terms of their tolerance of sexuality. Sometimes we can get frustrated with the limitations of our own culture and feel like we’re the only weird ones in the world. While some bullies may try to get laws changed to suit their own tastes, others of our neighbors have honest beliefs or simply personality traits that make them averse to being as public with their sexuality as others are. It’s not a flaw or a weakness, and making them give up their standards because “everyone is doing it” can be just as invasive as when people demand that all hours of television be appropriate for their seven year old to view.
Sounds just like South Park’s anime episode “Fun Times With Weapons.” The parents are less appalled at the violence that takes out Butters’ eye than they are with Cartman’s inadvertent display of nudity.
sigh Me too.
Saw it! It was… weird!
Well said. I’m not offended by the fact that there’s nudity in it - I just think it seemed like the people making the movie were more titillated by it since it’s so abrupt.
I appreciate this moderate view, Stroogie. Thank you!
I’m blasting my way through the series right now per wifey’s recommendation, and I came here to post the same darn thing. In fact, it gets pretty freakin steamy.
Not a bad read, kinda alternate history sci-fi in a sense, because it’s a modern day world where Vampires & Werewoofs are just a fact of life and have very recently received legal recognition. Kinda neat, if anyone’s looking for a huge series that happens to have a tiny bit of heaving bossoms mixed in with a metrix buttload of gunfire & knifework.
Heaving bosoms, gunfire and knifework. Thats a good idea for a book.