GWC Podcast #172: Transformers 2 (Live Studio Audience)

You know, the impression we get from the first movie is that the Allspark seemed to have always been on Cybertron, its energy creating Transformer life. This begs the question:

What were the first 13 Primes? Where they the first life the Allspark created… or could they be a race of alien robots who decided to investigate the unusual energy signatures on the surface, and they were affected in unusual ways by the Cube radiation, evolving from 13 Cylon Centurions into 13 Primes. The cube creates feral transformers. Perhaps it was the knowledge of the Cylon Centurions/First 13 Primes that allowed them to achieve true sentience.

Photoshop.

Just seeing the pictures of everyone in NYC made me miss you all so much! Can’t wait for the next meetup. Can we have one in the Pacific NW??? Pleaseeeeeeee!!!

Prodigy of Plasticman

As to the question of Jetfire’s accent, it sounded Scottish to me.

Sean great job of educating us on Transformers. I think you talked more the last few podcast. Even more than the last 150. :smiley:

And a protractor.

Because if it is not Scottish, IT IS CRAAAAAAP! :smiley:

EXAC-TLY! hahaha

Ebert may not have liked Star Wars, but he did like the 2007 Transformers.

Transformers 2: The highest-grossing, lowest-rated summer blockbuster of 2009.

Who’d have thought?

Still listening to the cast (and loving the hive mind aspect) but wanted to correct one thing because it is the only scene that our state gets. The bone yard scene was actually shot in Tucson, Arizona. The telling feature was the mountains in the background. I got a chuckle in the theater because they went from DC all the way to the other side of the country by walking out the door. I guess it must have been another teleportation moment with Jetfire. We have a SR-71 here too, but it’s out doors under a crappy steel canopy not in a cool hanger.
Back to the cast

I saw my first in-the-titanium SR-71 in Hutchinson, KS. There’s something really incredible about the idea of seeing 80 knots indicated at 100k’+ and mach 3+. Damn.

It wasn’t Ebert. It was Siskel. I remember as a child watching ‘Siskel and Ebert’ before Star Trek (they were on at 4:30 and Star Trek was on at 5pm) that I remember Siskel panning Star Wars, calling it childish popcorn fantasy, not a great movie at all. I have a memory of staring at my 13 inch TV with my jaw dropped. Anyway, this is what I found:

Gene Siskel’s 1977 review:
Star Wars is not a great movie in the sense that it describes the human condition. It simply is a fun picture that will appeal to those who enjoy Buck Rogers-style adventures. What places it a sizable cut about the routine is its spectacular visual effects, the best since Stanley Kubrick’s “2001.” [27 May 1977]

Rogert Ebert’s 1977 review:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19770101/REVIEWS/701010315/1023

Someone please alert Audra to store this tidbit in her back pocket. Wouldn’t want to pass on incorrect info.

On another issue, the voice of Jetfire was provided by Mark Ryan (I said John Ryan in the 'cast…I was close, no?).

Yeah, we have a pretty incredible air museum out here and the SR-71 is just breath taking. It is a bad ass piece of airplane.

Here’s a link to a 1977 Star Wars review by Ebert. I mean come on, what’s he thinking!!! He only gave it 4 stars! :wink:

EDIT: Do’H, posted before going to last page. 'Talos beat me to it.

BTW: I shall accept no crap from someones who were in the room with a live mic. If you didn’t mention your name, you’re the someone-er, not the someone-ee.

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Saw my first at the USS Intrepid Museum in NYC. I think my dad was more giddy than I was about that trip. So much so that I bought him the book Sled Driver by SR-71 pilot Brian Shul a few Christmases later.

I enjoyed the movie and the podcast. I admit I am not as big a Transformer fan as some, but I did like the movie.

So I was chatting via twitter with Chuck about the comment Audra made that several folks took their kids but thought some of the jokes were a little crass. My husband and I took our 11 year old daughter to see it last Wednesday.

My husband and daughter are both big fans of the cartoon so they both knew history and background stories. I guess it was because of that reason that we did not expect some of the more adult scenes in the movie. However it is rated PG-13 so maybe we should have taken that rating at face value because there were a few scenes that my husband and I both winced over.

I’m sure there are obvious ones, the thong and butt scene, which made my daughter hide her eyes…me too. Then there was the scene where the robot rode Megan’s leg…which went on forever. The scene where the college girl decepticon pushed Sam on the bed and all that went along with that. The husband and I gave each other a few sideways glances during that. I think the first time they showed the girls face change from human to robot kind of startled my daughter but she thought it was cool after the initial change. The scene that we had to spend the most time discussing with her was the brownies and why Sam’s mom was acting the way she was acting.

I was okay with having to explain things, I just wasn’t expecting it.

I have about a million more thoughts on this subject, but I would start rambling.

Well…

I see I was beaten to the punch. And of course, even though she’s beautiful she was altered on a magazine cover - because no one can actually live at the proportions that the covers show us. Oftentimes, it would be physically impossible.

Sigh.

(still haven’t seen the movie… working on it…)