Here are some cool older pics of Ricardo Montalban (RIP). Look at those eyes!!
Note: Ricardo Montalban actually passed away in January 2009, not 2008 as the photo states.
I miss the old intro too because it made me feel like BSG is so gone from GWC. But change is always tough on me, you all know how fussy I get with the Avatar changes!
My only Trek knowledge is TOS and I, like Chuck, watched it as a kid after school. Liked it but never got into other series. But I always liked this film and I enjoyed my rewatch because I think we’ll see bits of these people in the new movie. They have got to show Kirk reprograming the no-win situation!
My question is- if you are familiar with TOS is that an advantage or disadvantage going into the new film? I’m not sure what the answer is.
Have to say I’m dying to see Trekies 1 and 2 now that I’ve been to a Con and dressed like a Viper pilot in public (at the pub for the meetup). Loved that interview.
He had a puppy!!
(dog lover)
When I watched Trekkies 1 and 2, I questioned my own sanity. The jury is still out.
Trekkies 1 was judged as quite hard on the community by some of the fans (I enjoyed it.) Trekkies 2 was better balanced (they had the advantage of being able to follow up on some of the folks from T1.)
I think, as a set, it’s a pretty good overview of some of the edges of the community, both pro and con.
You might also want to see Ringers (LotR fans docu) as well.
I really enjoyed Trekkies - I haven’t seen the 2nd one. I didn’t think it was particularly hard on the community - if anything it felt affectionate towards them. But yeah, that might just be me seeing the people portrayed and thinking that they seem like interesting people to meet. I would totally go to that dentist office lol.
I was in college at the time of STII’s release where I was taken a gen-ed mythology class. I really feel that that Kirk has strong parallels to the Odysseus character and some of the STII themes are pick-ups from the Odyssey.
- Kirk and Odysseus are both noted for getting out of tough spots by their wits and some gratuitous violence (cue TOS fighting music). They often cheat to get their own way.
- They both have left the raising of their sons to the moms and are completely absent until the sons are adult.
- They both feel compelled to re-establish a relationship with their sons, which their sons initially rebuff.
- Through the story, the sons see their fathers worth and ultimately except them.
- Both stories are about the main characters questioning their own place in the world now they are not at their physical peak and ultimately how they accept their maturity.
Sorry, I don’t post here often (nearly ever), but this is a great movie and enjoy reviewing it again.
Nice one, Chas.
Another parallel is that Odysseus was revered by the Greeks and vilified by the Romans. The same could be said for Kirk, Federation (Greeks) and Klingons (Romans). It’s a stretch but Hey!
One contrast is the Odysseus worshipped and sacrificed to the gods, Kirk just slays them.
That’s just brilliant.
The episode that Audra mentions in the podcast I believe is called Where No Man Has Gone Before. It is the second pilot and was created because the NBC execs did like the original pilot The Cage (which was later expanded upon to create the two hour episode The Menagerie). Interestingly one of the biggest complaints about The Cage was that the second in command was a woman (talk about a demotion for Majel Barret – from the second in command to the lovesick nurse).
Also I want to disagree with the trio about Star Trek the Motion Picture being the worst of the movies. I would argue that Star Trek V is the worst. The Motion Picture was beautifully filmed if hampered by a slow pace and overly ambitious script.
No, she’s pure Vulcan. I don’t think we had a half-Romulan until the TNG days. (All I can think of now is the character in the Starship Intrepid fanfilm.)
Nope, that’s all Ricardo. Dude was in shape.
I totally respect this point of view. It’s a tough call, and one that I’ve ridden the fence on for quite some time. Up until fairly recently, I’ve listed V at the bottom of my list. (Sean and I have been comparing these lists for some time now. <grin>)
But I ended up swapping them because the personal moments from V strike home much more for me than the story of TMP. That said, I’d agree that TMP is beautifully shot. And I’m a big proponent of seeing all the Trek flicks. They each have something to offer – even the ones that aren’t great movies overall.
[QUOTE=Pike;162928]No, she’s pure Vulcan. I don’t think we had a half-Romulan until the TNG days. (All I can think of now is the character in the Starship Intrepid fanfilm.)
Last thing I want to do is to get into a forum argument but…
Saavik is indeed half Vulcan half Romulan. The line explaining this got cut from the script, but was kept in the novel form. I spose one can argue about canon etc…
Check out wikipedia for a fuller description.
Sorry to double post, but I go with V as the worst. Quite possibly the worst movie of all time. For my purposes it doesn’t exist, was never made. It is as dead to me as Fredo.
Let the Trek fight begin. cue the ‘Amok Time’ music
Don’t worry about forum arguments, we’re pretty civil 'round here. 
Some googling reveals: The original script apparently states she’s Vulcan/Romulan, but references to that were cut from the movie (but likely kept in the novel, which was prepared beforehand.) Later she’s described as “half-Vulcan.” So, she’s not a pure-blood Vulcan, but the cannon is open as to what the other half is.
BTW, the Enterprise model was in the basement gift shop of the Smithsonian last I saw, which was several years ago. It is indeed impressive.
Any time the a Star Trek movie’s Big Bad is Some Dude Who Just Wants To Feel Alright, it’s bad news. That accounts for two of 'em.