Batman

Not really, a rough chronological order I suppose, I picked them off my big shelving-o-nerd, and I tend to try and order comics in an order that makes sense as a timeline.

Kingdom Come is more a Wonder Woman/Superman story though, it’s about them finding their place in the “new order of things”. Batman’s already got his place lined up.

Also, I find Alex Ross’ art ugly… which I understand is a capital crime in some places.

Cool.

I feel like a heretic for saying this, but I found Hush to be really unengaging. I read it monthly rather than the big book format, and it just never kicked in with me.

Feel free to mock me for this. (The curent orrison run is much better BTW)

[SPOILER]You mean in the story itself or with the frankly insane re-retconning that came later? [/SPOILER]

Oh god, re-retconning? Tell me more. Does this have anything to do with one of those Crisis events that I managed to steer clear off so far? Except for Identity Crisis, which I liked but which didn’t seem to be an actual crisis in the capital C kind of way…

I’m also completely flabberghasted by the concept of “Multiverse” and 52 plus versions of Earth and admire anyone who can keep track of which story is set on which Earth.

Okay, [SPOILER] Hush is Tommy Elliot, except for the parts where it was really Clayface, who was pretending to be Jason Todd, except when it was really Jason Todd pretending to be Clayface, who was pretending to be Jason Todd… Jason Todd who was murdered by the Joker, but because Superboy Prime punched the wall of the universe, he came back to life in his coffin. It’s very tied in to the multiverse Crisis tales.[/SPOILER]

The DC multiverse was destroyed in the mid-80’s because it became stupidly confusing, and the comics weren’t selling. 20 years later, DC kind of, sort of, bring it back in the form of the 52 (really 53… or 52… it depends on who you ask).

Keeping track of it is pretty easy, Pretty much every DC (and "Main’ Vertigo) book is set on “New Earth”, the rest don’t really factor in, except for Earth 50 which is the Wildstorm universe.

My nerd brain super power is keeping track of this stuff.

[spoiler]I knew all that except for the Superboy Prime part. I read “Red Hood” (I think that was the title) and its sequel some time ago, so the concept of Jason Todd coming back wasn’t completely new to me, although I thought a Lazarus Pit was involved when he actually came back, but maybe I’m just not remembering the Superboy Prime part[/spoiler]

On a sidenote:

[spoiler]The most interesting thing in Hush, apart from Catwoman of course, was that it was briefly mentioned that Batman would like Tim Drake to become The World’s Greatest Detective eventually. Any opinion whether that’s maybe the direction the new Batman R.I.P. might be going to take? Cause I heard that Wayne was going to die, but not Batman[/spoiler]

The DC multiverse
I’m a complete DC boy by heart, I only wish there would be actual continuity. I’m very new to comics, I’ve been reading comics for almost a year now, a whole new addiction for me, my stack of comic TPB has grown to be five or six feet high over the last year, and the fact that there is no ultimate continuity was a whole new concept for me to grasp. Same thing with costumes being donned by different people, like “soandso is the fourth Green Lantern” or “the Golden Age Sandman” or things like that. But I’m getting the hang of it and it’s been great so far.

Ah, if the Germans ran the comics business… Absolutely continuity, and issues would come out on time.

:eek: :smiley:

That can’t be right! Somebody should have said something.

I was thinking in feet for the metrically challenged Americans and then wrote meters anyway. So, more like 1.5 meters or so actually.

It was, but only after he’d come back. It was used to bring his mind back to full power… as it were.

Honestly, I have no idea. I’ve been reading Batman R.I.P. and I’ve only got the vaguest idea what is really happening. I don’t think they’re going to replace Batman with Tim Drake, at least not in the main title, besides, for Bruce Wayne to die, and Batman to carry on, that presupposes that Bruce Wayne actually exists in the first place, which he doesn’t.

I’m a complete DC boy by heart, I only wish there would be actual continuity. I’m very new to comics, I’ve been reading comics for almost a year now, a whole new addiction for me, my stack of comic TPB has grown to be five or six feet high over the last year, and the fact that there is no ultimate continuity was a whole new concept for me to grasp. Same thing with costumes being donned by different people, like “soandso is the fourth Green Lantern” or “the Golden Age Sandman” or things like that. But I’m getting the hang of it and it’s been great so far.

There is a continuity, but it’s pretty easy to ignore as a reader. For the most part, the books keep it all together, but you may have to do some work to get the different titles to line up. DO NOT DO THIS WORK! I do it, and wouldn’t wish it on anyone!

As for “soandso is the fourth Green Lantern”, well, all you have to know there is that Guy Gardener is the one, TRUE Green Lantern, none of the others actually matter.

Except G’nort.

Oh! What’s that supposed to mean?

There is no “Bruce Wayne” he’s just the mask that Batman wears, The opposite of Superman, who is just the mask that Clark Kent wears.

Batman so crazy.

Hm. Interesting point of view. Have you read “Ego and other Tails” or just the story “Ego”?

I have. I live my life by 2 rules.

1: Batman is crazy
2: Batman ALWAYS wins. Possibl because he’s crazy.

there is another rule, but it’s been classified by TCP, so I ignore it.

I can see that with the public face of Bruce Wayne, billionaire playboy, certainly being a mask, but Superman? I tend to follow the vision of Superman in Kill Bill II. Superman is who he is all the time. His power is innate. Clark Kent is a fraud. He pretends to be weak, awkward, uninteresting, just like everyone else. Clark Kent is the disguise; Superman is the reality.

I suppose it’s down to nature vs nurture. He was raised as Clark Kent, and became Superman to have a public face. Clark Kentloves humanity, and considers himself part of it. Superman is just who he pretends to be.

Lois married Clark not Kal-El.

Ever seen Kill Bill? I had to look up the exact speech:

Interesting viewpoint, IMO. :slight_smile:

Lois married Clark not Kal-El.

Ever read Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex? Pretty difficult to ever think about Superman and a human together after reading that. :smiley:

Times are tough right now economically:(, so I just did my last big spending for the month. Dropped six grand:mad: on my next semester, but more importantly, I ordered “Gotham Knight” and “Batman Begins” on bluray. Yes that’s right, Batman trumps the college on the importance scale.:eek:

ooh, I’m not sure I would say that Gotham Knight is worth it. you’ll have to see for yourself

It’s definitely worth seeing. Owning? eh.

I have an odd Batman question that I was hoping some our local experts might be able to answer:

Every time I’ve ever seen the Batcave depicted (with the possibly not-so-notable exception of the old TV show) it is literally a bat-cave. So how does he deal with the guano? Some real bat-caves have floors covered with the stuff several inches (or feet!) thick, so why isn’t every surface in the Batcave, including the Batmobile? Has this issue ever been realistically explained or is this just a suspension of disbelief sort of thing?

I’m thinking he evicts the bats somehow (Bat Anti-Batdar?) I’m only recalling them being around when he finds the place.