I love LotR, don’t get me wrong, but GoT…it’s sort of the dark gritty and way more complicated version of LotR. It’s akin to comparing BSG and TNG, I guess, in some ways. With LotR there’s such a clear cut morality system. You always know who the bad guys are. With GoT, all bets are freaking off.
Random question: so I’m perusing the steam sales, and there’s a GoT genesis game on sale. It’s strategy, which is not my kind of game at all, but I’m sorta itching to buy it even if it’s just to walk around and check out the locales, lolol. Hmmm. Maybe I’ll wait for the price to go down even more, which it inevitably will on steam.
I’ve been looking around for the GoT game but the reviews I’ve perused (admittedly, not a lot) haven’t been the best. There’s an RPG coming out in the spring that I’m more curious about as the buzz around it is a lot more positive.
Couple answers to questions raised. Pretend expert hat in place
Season 2 returns in APril, I hard rumors of around the 20th but I can’t find any confirmation on that date.
As for the battle
A) It has been filmed
B) Martin wrote the script for that episode
C) SQUEEEEEEEEEE!!!
As for pacing, word has it they moved some of Jamie’s stuff from book 3 into season 2 since he really didn’t do a lot in book 2. Season 2 will continue to stick to book 2, season 3 according to the producers at Comic-Con will probably be when they start splitting books due to sheer size of story.
I thought it would be sorta hilarious in a meta way – though completely unsatisfying – if they presented the battle by having a character in the castle looking out the window, saying, “Look! Seven be praised, [this certain thing is happening! And [now this other thing]!”
I was wondering about the Jaime stuff for season 2. But…why split book 3 into multiple seasons (or will that make more sense once I make it past page 500)?
Ooooooh. Good thing I didn’t get it then. This RPG sounds much more up my alley anyway, do you know who is making it?
I’m starting to think Martin will be in charge of every game changer/presumably penultimate episode each season, similar to Pelecanos in The Wire. Like, I doubt anyone but Martin will write that OMFG book 3 one. (though I guess that means it’ll be in S4 then, if they’re splitting book 3. HBO better not cancel the show before then, or I’ll throw one nasty tantrum. Fists and stomps and all the works. :D)
And not surprised re: Jaime, since they already used the one significant scene for him in book 2 in S1 of the show (Cat/Jaime scene). Figures they’ll have to shift some of Jaime’s book 3 stuff into S2 if NCW were to remain on the show for S2.
But…SQUEE! April can’t come soon enough.
I read it on old kindle, so I have no clue where pg. 500 is. But it’s one big fat book. And mostly many, many things happen in book 3 that seems pretty inconceivable to cut for time because a lot of those things will matter into the narrative (unlike book 2, I guess, where there are bits that are good but are ultimately expendable/could be heavily streamlined, from the show’s POV). But I’m curious though as to where they’ll do the split. And I don’t really know how book 4 would be worked, since it’s just as long/longer than book 3, but I’m not sure it warrants 2 seasons worth of episodes either, at least for me. It seems like it’ll bog down the pacing a whole lot, unless they’re going to combine book 4/5 together and make 3 seasons? That might be plausible and will make sense, I guess. Wow, the showrunners will have their hands full figuring out the logistics of that fustercluck, let alone just writing the scripts.
But anyway! Just finish book 3. You’ll see. I stepped away from the books after what happens happens and couldn’t bring myself to continue it until I recovered from the shock.
I’m pretty sure I had legitimate post-traumatic stress after book 3. In book 4, I must warn you, many aspects of the GRR Martin style that bother you, they become much more prominent.
I’m about 3/4 through book and nearly in every chapter something exciting or interested happens. Not like in book 1 or 2 some where mostly foods or past history of Westeros is described/told. The decision to split Book 3 in two seasons at RW I’m totally behind that decision. If they would attempt to tell all the events in only 10 episodes like S1 and two could only succeed if they cut much out. Though I’m not finished yet, my ranking so far would be: A Storm of Swords > A Game of Thrones > A Clash of Kings
Ähhhhhhhhhh, no. How about they using title cards to present us off-screen events?
Yeah, part of his journey might be good thing to move into S2. We don’t wanna see some viewers forget about him. I wonder how they can bring across Jaime’s thots about the “wrench”. Especially in the tub scene.
More history lessons and food descriptions??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Thanks to the book discussion, I already know what “what happens that happens” is, so I’m ready for the shock. BUT…the whole style thing gets cumbersome, but the yarn is good enough to slough through (I find Martin a lot more readable than Tolkien, say).
I’m about 400+ pages into A Storm of Swords and I’m finding it somewhat tedious at times (though I just got through Samwell’s chapter at Craster’s hold and what happens there totally blew me away, so…).
I agree with that. Besides book 5, which I’m purposefully reading as slow as possible, book 4 took me the longest to get through, and it does have something to do with the pacing of it, the expositiony nature of a lot of the chapters, as well as a bunch of new characters in new locales who took considerably longer for me to invest in/or even remember sometimes, in comparison to ones introduced in 1-3. That’s why I think book 4 and 5 will be combined in some manner to make the later seasons when the show gets to that bridge. But I’m not really bothered by it, since Martin is a good enough writer that I actually enjoy reading him talk about wine and food. I appreciate the slower bits because the balance is essential to a story as large as this. It would get really really silly if it’s just one wtf moment after another, which book 3 manages to avoid being based on the strength of the foundation set in the first two books.
To be fair though, I think aSoS worked so remarkably well is from all the setups from GoT and aCoK. I consider aSoS as the ‘mid series’ book, where it pays off many many outstanding SLs accummulated in the first 2 books with huge jaw droppers, so it’s sort of designed and perfectly placed to be a favorite, you know? (whereas book 1 and 2 obviously had their big moments too, but it’s not as frequent, and ‘smaller’ in comparison. Hence why I didn’t doubt the battle scene would happen in s2. It’s the one big piece de resistance of book 2. Well, that and the baby thing, I think. I can already see that bit as one holy crap moment to end an episode. :D) Which is probably the reason why I give some slack to aFoC (and aDwD to a lesser extent) because it’s in that rebuilding/setup space again, where it has to set up stuff that will presumably be paid off/added onto in the remaining 2 books of the series. Both books still have their moments where it gets you too. So yeah, I appreciate the expostiony bits for what they are. They’re necessary for the equation.
Awwwww. That’s a bummer that you got spoiled. It still resonates with me - it’s been a long time since a book could make me feel that much! - and I’m almost jealous of people who are only watching the show because I already can anticipate their faces melting from that scene, if the reaction to Baolor was any indication (in retrospect, that was pretty small potatoes. :D) That feeling, man, it’s horrible but oh so wonderful.
If you’re not spoiled for anything else in book 3, there are still a lot of really big moments for you to stumble upon. Martin will get you, trust me.
Spoilers don’t bother me too much. A good story will be in the telling. HOW something is told is almost more important than WHAT is told. So even though I know something is coming, I’m still enjoying the ride.
Armoando: Book 3 is the longest of the books until book 5 released. There is a LOT that is pivotal to the overall plaot of the story happening. IT HAS to be split up there’s too much there to cover in 10 episodes.
DB Weiss & David Benioff are on record as stating they want to get to RW, if HBO decides to cancel after that, that is the goal. If they keep the quality as high as they have? I think they’ll be able to finish the story…hopefully after Martin does!
My PonyForArya joke is: The books are such downers, in moments of despondence, I want the end to be GRRM brings Ned Stark back to life, and he saves Arya & buys her a pony. Which, of course, is ridiculous. But she deserves it, you know?
