09/2008 Winner: Watchmen by Alan Moore

My friend ran across this image and I had to share. I don’t know the author, but props to him/her.

That’s awesome, for so many reasons.

“Awesome. Totally awesome.” – Jeff Spiccoli

Thanx for sharing. That’s even better than the Simpsons’ Watchmen babies.

The votes are in and Watchmen has been elected the September book of the month!“I hear always the admonishment of my friends:
Bolt her in, and constrain her!
But who watches the watchmen?
The wife arranges accordingly, and begins with them.”
[RIGHT]from Juvenal’s Satire VI, “Against women”
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This thread will contain spoilers. If you have not finished the book, proceed at your own risk

This actually deserves a big fat IYKWIM in Latin, but since I haven’t used my Latin since that ancient history class in sophomore year it’s so totally corrupted that I’ll just go with this instead:
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes

Watchmen has been elected the September 2008 book. The conversation will continue here

Si scis quod indico! :smiley:

(closest I could get with my fading memory)

That’s actually not bad at all.

I literally just finished The Watchmen about a week ago- perfect timing. What I like best about it overall is that the links and interrelations between various plot threads are so understated, which develops this unique and really lovely contrast between the narration and the illustration (which is not understated in any way). The tension between the storytelling media parallels the tension of the story itself.

Have you ever read it before? There are a lot of subplots and interconnections that I missed the first (and second) time through. I think it’s not too presumptuous to say it’s one of the most densely layered pieces of literature I’ve ever read.

Here is a question for everyone…how many have actually read the text between chapters? I have tried once or twice and found them impenetrable. Of course it never helped that I wanted to leap into the next chapter, but still…has anyone had the patience to read them? Am I missing major plot points by skipping?

Not major points, but a lot of the minor characters are more fleshed out in the interstitial materials. There are certain aspects of the story that you’ll completely miss without reading them and looking at the pictures. Like I said, it’s dense, with a lot of layers. I didn’t read them the first time through, but after I understood the main story, they really expand it significantly…

Inna final analysis. :stuck_out_tongue:

Major? No, not really. They do help shed some light on some of the events in the main story. Not reading them is like skipping the Pirate chapters. You’ll get it, but you’re doing yourself a disservice.

This is a not book that is about plot, Solai. This is about the deconstruction of a (then) fifty-year-old superhero mythology and the book’s message is conveyed through characters. What I’m trying to say is if you look at the big picture, you’re missing the real point(s), or, as we like to say, “the devil is in the details.”

Gotcha. I will sit down and go through them in an effort to identify the devil.

Ubi est bubula? is the only phrase I remember. Translation: Where’s the beef?

//youtu.be/Ug75diEyiA0

I’ve never read this. So, I’m really glad it won eventhough I didn’t vote for it.

I read each and every page at least twice before turning, so I’ve sort of read it twice :slight_smile:
I definitely do plan to read it again, once I get it back from the person I loaned it to. I get the idea that there is a lot going on- that it’s the kind of book where you can pick up new important pieces each time you read it.

I actually really liked them. I thought they added more to the tone and characterizations than to the plot- so they are skippable, I suppose, but I think it’s worth going back and reading them. I actually thought it showed off Moore’s skills as a writer, to be able to integrate such a different style/tone of writing fairly smoothly into the overall work.

I actually enjoyed the interstitials more than the main comic. Not really sure why. The pirate material, though, turned me off. I knew the book was going to be dark, but man, that stuff was dark. I’d still like to hear (read) everyone’s thoughts on how the pirate story enhanced the story and theme of the main comic. Perhaps the discussion will help me get some perspective.

I wasn’t sure how it fit in until the very end, [Spoiler]when Veidt starts, but then stops himself, describing his horrible dark dreams. I think that we were supposed to pick up on a parallel drawn between Veidt and the sailor who joined the damned pirate crew from hell, because both acted in an unbelievably amoral manner to achieve a limited goal, and ultimately will have to pay the price with their souls.[/Spoiler]

Ozymandias is, to me, a masterful bad guy. Because in his mind, he’s the hero of the story, doing what is regretfully neccessary for the good of all humanity.